[ SECRET POST #3014 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3014 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

13. http://i.imgur.com/9FT73q7.png

[feotakahari]

So before this comic, you thought sex positivity WAS a bad thing?

[sarillia]

It's not an uncommon opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

Negativity towards sex positivity, that is. *folds hands, Yoda style*

[blitzwing]

A lot of people have used it to shove compulsory sexuality down people's throats("sex is great! if you don't like it, you're just repressed by religion/sex-negative culture/the patriarchy/abuse" "sex is a human need" "everyone has sexual needs" etc etc). Even today there are still sex-positive feminists that spread this idea.

It's caused a lot of suffering for asexuals.

And like the anon downthread mentioned, some people use it as an excuse for inappropriate behavior. There are a lot of valid criticisms of "sex positivity" as it's practiced by many.

[diet_poison]

"Sex is a human need" gets on my nerves so much, and I'm not even asexual. It's a human drive - not a need. Food, oxygen, and water are needs.

[quirkytizzy]

I'd actually never thought it this way. About how the reverse implications of sex positivity can be used to make people feel bad for things they shouldn't feel bad about.

I will keep this in mind when talking about this subject in the future. Thank you for bringing it up.

[(Anonymous)]

Sex positivity is a wonderful thing. For women. Men use is as an excuse to be gross, objectifying, and downright abusive. the "Rape victims aren't victims of rape, they're just sex negative" mindset

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people have used sex positivity to shame other people and/or to make them feel guilty about either not wanting to have sex or not wanting to have certain kinds of sex.

[atelierlune]

I've read it said that sex positivity is yet another tool of the patriarchy because it makes women believe that behaving in sexually explicit ways empowers them when it actually just continues to allow men to objectify and commodify them - now with women aiding and abetting.

I do not believe this, I am only reporting.

[kaleidoscope]

I'm glad this worked out for you, but can you please tell us the name of the comic? Thank you!

[manzana]

I think it's Go Get a Roomie!

(warning: NSFW)

http://www.gogetaroomie.com/

[(Anonymous)]

TBH sex positivity is alright in theory, but I've seen people use it as an excuse to act gross in inappropriate contexts. Just because you're comfortable in your own sexuality doesn't mean it's cool to shove it into other people's faces.

[(Anonymous)]

Then you need to walk away and never read it again. Seriously, this is some serious bullshit right here. I mean is this panel actually depicting a rape?

[(Anonymous)]

Um...

[insanenoodlyguy]

Well I would say I don't care for this comic very much at all, this is a leap of logic so big I suspect you are rad!fem. If not, no. No it is not depicting a rape.

Sex Positivity is not an unmitigated good thing

[chardmonster]

Which isn't a defense of sex negativity, which often leads to people becoming misanthropes.

However, a lot of TOTAL ASSHOLES will use sex positivity as a way to take advantage of people and/or excuse their own selfish behavior. They can do whatever they like! They have needs and petty things like honesty and respecting boundaries don't matter. In the worst cases they'll try to make anyone hesitant look like prudes. People have always done this, but sex positivity makes them feel like this is not only okay but an ideological imperative.

Example: Other people are okay with anal without much lube or prewarning why not you? It must be because you're not relaxed enough, why don't you just practice a lot. But don't say you don't want anal, I mean I'll respect that but I'll make sure you feel bad about it.

Re: Sex Positivity is not an unmitigated good thing

[(Anonymous)]

That can be said about any ideology.

Re: Sex Positivity is not an unmitigated good thing

[(Anonymous)]

This, or they do something like what someone said up thread, "Sex is a human need! If you don't agree/think that is isn't for you then you must -insert some way, shape or form of implying something is wrong with you-!"

Re: Sex Positivity is not an unmitigated good thing

[(Anonymous)]

Since my association with "sex negative feminists" is of them being victim-blamey to rape victims who had rape fantasies, I'm not a big fan of either side.

Re: Sex Positivity is not an unmitigated good thing

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhhhhh

I think that's just assholes being assholes. It's hard for me to see that as a critique of sex positivity in general as an idea. If it's anything, it's just a reminder that sex positivity doesn't meant that there are no ethics in sex.

[(Anonymous)]

In general it can be a very good thing. The problem comes in that a lot of the most vocal people in the sex positive movement seem to forget that while being into something, and not ashamed of it, is awesome...but that *not* being into something, and not being ashamed of that is *also* awesome.

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: panel from a webcomic (possibly Go Get a Roomie?>)

Text: this webcomic convinced me that sex positivity isn’t a bad thing.

piling on some more I guess

[scrubber]

Man I'm so glad this thread wasn't people acting deliberately obtuse or just whining about how the OP could've ever been skeptical about sex-positivity in the first place. Like I've come down to planet Earth again. I once watched a herd of sex-positive feminists debate and agree that sex addiction only existed because America is just TOO PURITAN MAN and concluded hey, maybe this brand of feminism isn't for me.

Be that as it may, I hope this comic helped you move forward on your feminist journey OP. These things are important.

Re: piling on some more I guess

[(Anonymous)]

I still consider myself sex positive, but a lot of sex positive people have definitely gone right over the deep end. There's no willingness to actually think critically about things at all. And it's like, guys, sure, sex is great and people should not be shamed for liking it or having it, but just like with anything else, there can be bad things about it and it can be used in bad ways.