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⌈ Secret Post #3030 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

01. http://i.imgur.com/jBoPl88.png

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, people are complicated.

[cakemage]

Yep. It's a basic truth of humanity.

[(Anonymous)]

This is some sick timing as I was just contemplating watching this film not half an hour ago. Stop being eerie, F!S.

(Guess I'll watch the film.)

[litalex]

Do watch it. It's great and I definitely recommend it.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, sad things happen to 99% of gay couples in serious films about gay couples. They aren't allowed to have happy endings.

[elaminator]

Haha, that's what I thought as well.

Okay, so not always, but I do always fear the gay couple in any movie/tv show is going to die because drama.

[lb_lee]

YUP. This seems a relevant quote, from E. M. Forster when he wrote Maurice:

"A happy ending was imperative. I shouldn’t have bothered to write otherwise. I was determined that in fiction anyway two men should fall in love and remain in it for the ever and ever that fiction allows, and in this sense Maurice and Alec still roam in the greenwood.”

That book was written in 1914. It frustrates me that it's still relevant a hundred years later.

--Rogan

[elaminator]

That is a beautiful quote and a good point! I guess it goes to show that we've made a lot of progress but still have more to go.

[lb_lee]

Yeah, not gonna lie, after reading Maurice I got a LOT bitterer about things like Brokeback Mountain, to the point that I joked if you want to make a gay story straight people will love, make sure it's full of buckets of angst about how those queers can never be together, and then have one of them die. (Bonus points if they die in an appropriately gay manner, such as via bashing or AIDS.)

--Rogan

[elaminator]

I find Brokeback Mountain to be a solid film (not a masterpiece, but good) but I feel you; gay couples often get the shaft (pun absolutely intentional) in movies.

I don't mind tragedy! In some cases it really appeals to me, and I don't think gay characters should never ever have tragic back-stories or endings, but...it's so cliche and depressing at this point. I LOVE it when shows or movies do something different even though it would be totally plausible for them to go the tragic route. (Spartacus is about the only one that comes to mind atm.)

[lb_lee]

gay couples often get the shaft

OHOHO I SEE WHAT U DID THAR.

Yeah, in my case, I'm pretty solidly a Earn Your Happy Ending person, and queer/trans tragedy has grown increasingly unpalatable to me. (I blame too many English classes.) It's like, oh wow, a story involving gay people that has mainstream success I WONDER WHO'LL DIE.

I read some snarky quote somewhere that said the only thing in literature worse than a happy homosexual was a happy atheist. I like my stories to have both.

--Rogan

[praetorian_guard]

Same here, but I always figured it was because I have a higher level of empathy for people to whom I can relate more strongly. (Oops.)

[caerbannog]

I like your icon c:
/offtopic

[skeletal_history]

I can relate. Brokeback Mountain completely wrecked me, even though I'm not gay, have never had an impossible love, have never been in that kind of situation in any way. But still...I was a complete mess after that movie and felt depressed for days and days afterward. Still don't know why that one affected me so strongly and other tragic love stories have not.

[litalex]

OMG, Brokeback Mountain totally ruined me for the day. And I watched it twice, once with friends, once with my mom 'cause I promised her I would watch it with her.

It's still one of my favourite movies, though I haven't watched it since 'cause I don't want to start bawling again.

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: cover for the movie Lilting

N!S: I rarely cry at books, movies, tv show etc.

Also N!S: I have teared up like, twice in my whole life at movies, when a kid loses their parent in an exceedingly traumatic way.

But if a gay couple is involved there’s a 75% chance I will cry. I have no idea why, this is the case even when nothing sad actually happens. WTF self???

pic completely related, i know it’s meant to be sad but i cried buckets at the trailer

[(Anonymous)]

Did you cry when Ianto died in Jack's arms in Children of Earth?

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes I cry at things that make me happy, OP--or even at songs that aren't really sad at all. You never know what's going to do it for you.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm bi and girl/boy relationship drama never tugs at my heartstrings at all, but I cry at everything gay or lesbian. Possibly that's because there's usually homophobia involved with gay stories, and that has hurt me more than any heartbreak ever did. Or if there's no homophobia that is always jarring and I cry because I feel sorry for myself and "they don't know how lucky they are". That's how I explain it.