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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-01 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #392 ]


⌈ Secret Post #392 ⌋

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Notes:

Liz will BRB, she got newted

Secrets Left to Post: 0 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #056.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 ] too big, [ 1 2 3 ] repeats, [ 1 ] personal attack, [ 1 ] wasn't a subtle enough troll attempt, sorry. ):
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, February 2nd, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Chances are that you and the OP are white, aren't you?

What about seeing other characters besides the white ones? That people are complaining about black characters in contrast to other minorities speaks so much of them.

Chances are that you are racist too. I'm a member of "another ethnic minority", and I'm so sick of this.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Mh, no, I'm not. Not entirely anyway.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
... well. Chances still are that you aren't pretty good seeing white privilege.

Stop focusing on black people when you want to say that other minorities are under-represented. That isn't where the problem lies, you are actually blaming a minority for a more-powerful group's fault.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
wtf.

I'm seeing white privelage.... in that I wish my RP partners DIDN'T play as many white people? I'm not BLAMING a minority, btw. Anyway, I'm stopping this conversation right now because, wow. You're an idiot.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Oh God. Of course you don't. Telling people to 'stfu' about black characters was just for aesthetics purposes, wasn't it.

Good you are stopping. BINGO

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Um. Actually no.

It was more the fact that everyone sits there and says blacks have it so fucking bad, but they forget about native americans, they forget about aboriginal australians, they forget about every other culture that 'white guys' have fucked up.

But don't worry, you keep thinking that.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
*sigh* Okay, I clearly don't have much to do today.

What about... telling people they should represent other minorities without trying to shut out black people?

Because, like it or not, black people are still stereotyped, under-represented, etc. Even if they are more represented than other ethnicities.

They have to talk, honey. And they have to talk about them. It's just that there is still a awesome lack of other POC characters that doesn't have anything to do with black characters.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to 'shut out' black people. I'm saying STFU to those blacks who think that they are the only misrepresented/undrerepresented/IMPORTANT minority out there.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
... Amazingly I've never heard a black person saying that. I just hear them focusing on their own problems.

Mmm.

[identity profile] valsadie.livejournal.com 2008-02-02 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really think it's black people who keep white people from noticing other minorities? Seriously? Seriously??

Like white people have all minorities on some kind of meter and black people are taking up too much of the time allotted--?!

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[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This thread is like every discussion I have ever had on race and white privilege and the assumption that because my skin color happens to be rather light, I am a) completely 100% TERRIBLY RACIST caucasian, and b) I must also have had a way easier life because I'm not black.

[livejournal.com profile] tealizard, you have all of the props I can possibly give for dealing with someone who argues like this. x]

So does the OP, since ~hispanic~ isn't ~not white~ enough for this righteously pissed off Anon. Jeez. :|

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-03 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You have no idea how much time I have spent smacking down idiots like this. Hell, its probably one of the same people I've argued with before.

Seriously, like... I understand history, but it's history. Yes rascism still exists, but white does not = evil.

Thanks yo.

[identity profile] thrives.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
They just won't be smacked down, though. x[ oh woe is me, is the whole world exactly like my college?

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god. D: Don't worry, I'm also dealing with a white male who believes he knows how rascism and sexism FEELS rather than offering outsider commentary on them.

It's very funny. VERY VERY FUNNY.

OP Of This Secret

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
Fail. I'm Hispanic.

Re: OP Of This Secret

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
As in... latina/o? Because I am that too.

Awesome.

Re: OP Of This Secret

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My parents were born in Spain but I was born in Chile.

Never thought this secret was going to create such wank.

well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-02 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a feeling somebody passed for white.

Re: well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-03 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
And I had a feeling someone was an asshat.

Because, you know, the fact that I am of European descend totally nullifies my argument.

Re: well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-03 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
It is as funny as hell to see the beautiful mind behind that prize winning ignorance call *anyone* an asshat.

You had an argument? I thought that was just passive aggressive foolishness that showed an utter lack of awareness, but I guess I will have defer to your greater knowledge, wisdom, and understanding.

Please, do carry on!

Re: well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-03 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
...Wow. I knew there were "more of a minority than thou" types, but it still shocks me every time.

Re: well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-03 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
That's ok. You dont get it.

Re: well that explains it.

(Anonymous) 2008-02-04 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Awww, of course we are there for your amusement.