[ SECRET POST #3157 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3157 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Are you the friend that when someone tells you a story, you have to one up them?

[(Anonymous)]

Gently pointing out a friend's rather obliviously one-sided view of the world isn't one-upping them with an anecdote. It's merely pointing out that they have blinders on and that if they removed them, they'd see a completely different view.

[(Anonymous)]

"This character makes me feel bad about myself."

"WELLLLLL, millions of women feel bad about this ALL THE TIME!"

That isn't one upping? Like...did anywhere in the secret indicate the guy friend was going, "GOD, Women just don't udnerstand my pain"

[(Anonymous)]

Well, no. Not if OP is pointing out that the issue her friend describes is very similar to an issue most women have with representation of ideal femininity in the media. In fact, I'd say it puts them on more of an equal playing field, it's just that the male friend would realize it.

[(Anonymous)]

Nnnnnno. Gently pointing out that a person's real experience is wrong because it's not about you isn't removing their blinders, it's attempting to make everything about you.

[(Anonymous)]

You seem to be projecting a little... well, a lot, actually. Nowhere does the secret say that the OP planned to tell their friend they were wrong. I'm sorry if this has happened to you, but you really need to address those specific issues with your friends/acquaintances and not assume that everyone else is in the same situation.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, as a man, I don't find Captain America too perfect, nor does he make me feel inadequate.

Therefore, I am forced by the inescapable chains of OP's iron logic to conclude that this isn't a problem with female characters either.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get that rebuttal because isn't his characterization part of what makes him perfect to so many women?

Unless we're saying women feel inadequate next to flat personality-less "love interest"s in the typical action movie, which I don't think is true...

[(Anonymous)]

"Ah fuck, I think I broke my toe!"

"Well, I know people who've broken their whole FOOT, so who cares?"

[cloudtrader]

I get your point, but the perfect ideal in many movies is enough to make anyone feel inadequate, male or female. This is not a new problem in Hollywood or in media in general. Men are just as likely to feel bad about themselves as women based on how movies portray their physique and accomplishments.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I don't know it I would go that far.
I've seen various secrets posted here, and I've heard various women in real life, complain on how they have a hard time relating or liking female characters because they feel like competition and can't be as "perfect" as them. I don't think I've ever heard a single man say the same thing, expect for the guy in OPs secret.
I'm not doubting it happens, because I'm sure it dose. But considering how even today, most writers and directors put way more effort and thought into their male characters than female, I don't think the issue is nearly as common in both genders as you think they are.

But this is just an observation I've made, feel free to disagree or ignore this.

[(Anonymous)]

Jesus, you're all missing the point of Cap. He's supposed to be the ideal that puts everyone else to shame.

[(Anonymous)]

And this is why I never warmed up to the character.

[(Anonymous)]

That tends to be what happens when you have pleb taste.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, as opposed to the nobles who find the noble Aryan ideal edifying.

[(Anonymous)]

Ha ha ha. Comic book characters are the ULTIMATE in "pleb taste". So amusing you think Cap is somehow culturally aspirational.

[(Anonymous)]

I for one think you should tell them. Not a lecture, mind you, just a casual shrug and a brief pointing out that this is what it's like for women nearly all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Why does this have to start with shrugging off their problem? Wouldn't acknowledging its validity, and then using that to help them understand that it's a problem many women share, actually work better? Or is this about trying to decrease human empathy rather than increasing it?

[(Anonymous)]

Like women don't spend enough time already contributing to "human empathy" by continually stroking men's fragile egos and telling them how important they and their problems are. Or at least they had better, or this kind of crap emerges. You want to be *nice*, don't you ladies? That's what you are for. Heaven forefend you might ever criticize the current set up or act in any way as if men weren't the main show and you're just a side act.

SIGH

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Lol what world do you live in that people take problems that men face even half as seriously as they do women's problems? Nice try using all the right buzzwords but it's still laughably incorrect.

[(Anonymous)]

He feels like Cap is physically too perfect or personality too perfect? Because physically, you know, muscles in a bottle, science experiment. But as a person, Steve has plenty of flaws/contradictions. Everything he does for good is done with a negative: lying to enlist, disobeying orders because of Bucky (not that any of the other POWs were even a thought until he had to get past them to find Bucky), and on. He looks good because his decisions (mostly) work out, but he's just as selfish as the next guy.

[(Anonymous)]

Chris Evans makes me feel inadequate.

He also makes me feel horny.

This is what it's like to be gay.

I don't mind. ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Wow you're kind of an ass. I can't stand people like you who dismiss the very real fact that a lot of men and boys have severe body image issues as well just because "women have it worse so your problems are invalid". What you're doing is basically whining "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WOMENZ" the second a conversation doesn't center on their problems. And as soon a man would do the same you'd probably shout "NOOO IT'S NOT AN UNREALISTIC IDEAL, IT'S A ~MALE POWER FANTASY~".

[(Anonymous)]

That's why I love the MCU. The films are kinda shitty, but they make men feel the way women have always been made to feel by cinema. Plus all those shirtless fuckboys. mmmm.