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Comments

Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Could you perhaps explain your political views to me please? Because I am having a hard time understanding, when I see a male Republican candidate ranting about how he thinks women's bodies should be policed, and there are women in the crowd cheering for this man who thinks he should be allowed to have a say in what people with a uterus can do with said uterus, or if they can or should work out of the home, or whether they deserve all those basic human rights that men get... I legitimately do not understand it, how women can care so little about their own rights. And there's a female candidate too... How?

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Iceyred, someone's calling you out.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Cognitive dissonance? I mean, that isn't the weirdest "how are your political standings so different from how you present yourself". Kim Davis is a registered democrat.

Also, political leanings isn't JUST about reproductive rights. And most people understand that no matter how extreme views may be, once in office all that shit balances out.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Kim Davis is a registered democrat.

Is she really?

Did not know that. Huh.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Some women are anti-abortion and think women's bodies SHOULD be policed to save babies and will support candidates who share their views regardless of gender.

I mean, it's not a difficult concept.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

^^^This is the shit that pisses me off. The mother abandons the baby. Dies as a result of a complicated delivery. Isn't financially able to care for a child. Child has severe medical condition. Whatever. Are the conservatives going to adopt all these babies they saved? Support them financially? Ensure they live well and grow? No? Then fucking let women abort.

I mean, it's not a difficult concept.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not Republican, but I'm female and pro-life and... yes, I suppose that's basically it. Though the "policing women's bodies" language always irritates me - I don't give a single fuck what other women do with their bodies so long as it doesn't result in the end of a life. (For what it's worth I feel the same way about the PRO-CHOICERS WANT TO KILL BABIES!!! side of the pro-life movement. No they don't, idiots. We just have different perspectives about fetuses.)

ON THE OTHER HAND while I wouldn't discount all pro-life men out of hand, a lot of male pro-life politicians say incredibly disgusting things I don't want to be associated with and I've come to be pretty skeptical of candidates who are vocally pro-life. That and disagreeing with them on... most everything else. So I guess the pro-life non-Republican thing isn't working out too great for me.

(frozen comment) Oh boy let's

[chardmonster]

Because I am having a hard time understanding, when I see a male Republican candidate ranting about how he thinks women's bodies should be policed, and there are women in the crowd cheering for this man who thinks he should be allowed to have a say in what people with a uterus can do with said uterus

See, I can totally relate, because I feel just as weird when I'm standing in a proverbial crowd watching my fellow liberals happily criticize female opponents on the basis of their looks, policing women's bodies and decisions about what they want to do with their bodies, making all sorts of assumptions about them based on how much they like them. I mean sure they don't want to police your uterus! But they're going to call you a moron if you choose NOT to have an abortion, and if you don't want to fuck anyone right now you're a prude. And then they turn around and tell you how sexist conservatives are, and that's why you should hang with them.

Hell, sexism on the left is why the women's movement of the 60s 70s and 80s started. People were so damn sexist in the new left movements that women started their own.

The problem isn't conservatism. The problem is guys.

(frozen comment) Re: Oh boy let's

[(Anonymous)]

"But they're going to call you a moron if you choose NOT to have an abortion, and if you don't want to fuck anyone right now you're a prude."

I don't know where you've heard this but I have NEVER NEVER heard ANYONE say that a woman who chooses not to have an abortion is a moron. Nor seen someone called a prude for not wanting to fuck anyone right now.

Maybe on the depths of the internet, but NEVER in real life.

On the other hand, pro-lifers have SPIT at the feet of women getting abortions, screamed at them, called them whores and sluts.

(frozen comment) Re: Oh boy let's

[(Anonymous)]

If the problem is guys, why are women so eager to allow the guys to have their way?

(frozen comment) Re: Oh boy let's

[(Anonymous)]

I was following all that and agreeing and was expecting "asshole hypocrites" at the end but then you blamed one gender and only one gender and ruined it.

Women are capable of this too. It's both pedestaling and condescending to give them a pass.

(frozen comment) Re: Oh boy let's

[(Anonymous)]

Did...you not see the part about women supporting those candidates? That was the whole point.

(frozen comment) Re: Oh boy let's

[(Anonymous)]

Chard, you are doing it again. Stop blaming the male population for what Noodles did.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a Republican, but there are more moderate Republicans too. Most of the extreme right is in the Tea Party, which is not all Republicans. Also, some technical moderates care more about their fiscal policies than their social ones, and truly believe in their proposed plans for how to fix the economy, enough so that it's worth voting for even if it means they vote for a candidate they disagree with on social politics.

The cheering women are probably the religious right, which is mostly Tea.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Hi.

I'm sure that you're a Democrat if you're asking this question, so can I ask if you're 100% on board with everything that your party does? I'm willing to bet not. And that's how being a Republican woman is for me. There are things I can't stand about the platform, and I vote for more moderate candidates (mostly on social issues), but in the end, their main tenets fall into line with how I feel. Small government and fiscal responsibility, among others.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, according to Chard you are actually Republican so you can get access to some of that hot Republican dick.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

And there's a female candidate too... How?

Because...we don't base our support on gender?

(frozen comment) Hey, need to address this

[chardmonster]

I respect the thread freezing. I'm commenting on this because it's a broader issue.

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1282202.html?thread=862240410#cmt862240410

Reducing women to their relationships with men--as if dudes are their only motivation for anything, as if they have no independent thoughts or lives before or after--is a fucking sexist thing to do. Let's not do that.

Hell, let's not do that to anybody. Agreed?

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, there's a pretty simple answer to this. Women aren't a fucking hivemind. We have different views from one another, just like those big ol' important men do. Hope that helps.

(I'm an independent voter, BTW. Just think you have no idea how sexist your question is.)

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

There are lots of women who won't be affected by any anti-woman Republican policies. They're never going to need an abortion because they love kids and will have just as many as they want, and if one or two more come along accidentally, oh well, it's a lovely surprise that'll put a bit more of a dent in their wallets, no biggie! These are mainly married, middle to upper-class women, who don't belong to any other social or economic group Republicans want to hurt. In the end they support Republicans because they're oblivious to all other people's realities and/or because they get satisfaction from being elevated for all the privileges they have despite being women.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[cloud_riven]

Not in the states, so I got no stake, and besides someone agreeing with the generalised points you present, there is the part where it might not be the only issue that matters to them? I don't believe in most of the parties here even, and none of them completely ring right with me, so I usually have to decide on which issues I'm willing to compromise, and those which I won't.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

because they don't agree with you

is that really so hard to understand

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

I think there's a certain element of self loathing involved, but it's complicated. Internalized misogyny is definitely a thing. For example, the women you see picketing Planned Parenthood? They're doing it because they believe they're saving babies' lives and that women who are slutty enough to have sex shouldn't be able to escape the "punishment" of the consequences. It's easy to sanction screaming at women who are trying to get abortions or birth control if you believe those women shouldn't be having sex in the first place. But if you ask them what punishment the man ought to get, they probably would look at you as if you'd sprouted a second head.

Religion is behind a lot of it. It requires a lot of cognitive dissonance to think that middle aged rich guys in congress ought to control the bodies of women everywhere, but frankly, if you're conservative and Christian that sort of thinking's already been drummed into you from day one. It's not a stretch at all.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[(Anonymous)]

i don't understand US republicans, at all.

Re: Any female Republicans here?

[meredith44]

I used to be a pro-choice Republican woman when I was younger. And it was because the "anti-women" policies weren't as blatant and I agreed with a lot of the other tenants of the party. (As the other person said, I liked the idea of a smaller federal government and more fiscal responsibility. Among other things.)

And then I realized that the party had really shifted from what its core was supposed to be. Instead of fiscal responsibility, a lot of Republicans wanted to shift the money from social programs to miltary programs. And the attacks on women and others just started to really get to me. I think the country has shifted overall a lot to the conservative side. So moderate Democrats seem more like the Republicans of old, the non-fringe/extreme liberals aren't really all that liberal, and a huge portion of the Republicans are now so conservative it is ridiculous. I don't think basic rights for anyone (women, minorities, gays, anyone) should be for someone else to deny. They should be a fundamental part of just being human. And that seems like something a lot/the majority of Republicans don't seem to understand or care about these days. So I switched political parties a dozen years ago or so.