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The justice system will always bend in one way or another so I ask: With violent crimes like rape and murder, would you prefer a system that protects the innocent from being found guilty, at the risk of some of the guilty getting away with their crime, or a system which unerringly punishes the guilty even if that means some innocent get cause up in it? One or the other.

Protects the innocent. As that one dude said, "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

This is also why I am firmly against the death penalty. You can release someone from prison, you can't bring them back to life.

Edited 2015-09-25 23:18 (UTC)

Pretty much sums it up for me, too.

The former without a question. There's nothing more tyrannical than a court that assumes guilt without proper investigation, which allows innocents to be wrongly punished.

Depends on the numbers, but I'd lean towards the former.

However, we should always strive to be as exact as possible in the execution of our justice system, which generally means trying to make good changes rather than throwing up our hands. (Not saying you are doing this, but people often do.)

Protects the innocent, no question.

Protection of the innocent.

Absolutely the former. I, for one, am grateful for this aspect of the justice system.

I love that so many people for this theoretical are all "Protect the innocent!" but whenever there's a rape case everybody's like "Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean shit! Judge judge judgey judge!"

Those people are assholes.

no, those people care about women.

Re: So you can have a choice

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Yes, EVERYBODY

You say that like they're mutually exclusive positions.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is a tenet of the legal system. It means a person cannot be convicted of a crime until they've either pled guilty or been tried and found guilty. It doesn't mean that individual members of society are not allowed to form any opinions against the accused. It's meant to protect people from being wrongfully convicted and incarcerated (or fined, or executed, depending on the crime), not from being thought poorly of by their fellow human beings.

The former for most crimes. The latter for sex crimes.

2edgy.

Sex crimes are so incredibly subjective. Why would you risk sending thousands of potential innocent people to jail?

because of the billions of real women who suffer from it.

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What's fascinating to me is the culture that's arisen to elevate rape as a horror beyond murder. WTF, people.

I actually think it's damaging to rape victims to frame it like that.

"You might as well be DEAD! Your soul is removed! You'll never be the same again!"

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So, what penalty should the anon suffer who wanted me fucked with "a rusty rod"?

I mean, is that verbal assault? Is it a sex crime? I'm curious.

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I think presumption of innocence is a fundamental legal principle of fairness in a democratic society. No way do we want to go back to the Germanic system in the West, which effectively privileges some identities over others.

Innocent until proven guilty.

so you said that law is not productive enough to execute the guilty from the innocence?....