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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Should schools have a dress code, and if so, what is best? Uniforms? If there aren't uniforms, should there be regulations on what is appropriate?

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think there should be a dress code, but I also think that people need to keep themselves or others in check when writing or revising them to not be sexist against girls unfairly. If girls can't wear tank tops of any strap width, ban them from boys as well.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely. There should also be someone whose job it is to remind people not to dig themselves deeper my using justifications like "but boys will get distracted by girl-bodies!!1!"

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
THIS.

I remember at my school, there was a rule that boys could take their ties off on hot days, but girls couldn't. And this was in Australian summer, where it can reach up to 40 degrees.

Now THAT was some sexist bullshit.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
School is technically a professional situation, so I am all for dress codes. However, they do need to be more equally enforced. I got lucky with that with the administrators in my school. Guys showing off their boxers got the same old lab coats girls with visible bras got.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-10-23 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
No, fucking no. And please, for god's sake, no uniforms. I hate them and if there had been uniforms at my school, I'd have probably got in major trouble for never wearing one. The idea that someone can tell me what I must wear just disgusts me to hell and back.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
idk, I grew up with uniforms (all school have uniforms where I live) and it never bothered me. it was actually a good thing, for a lot of kids, b/c there was never that competition with "what am I going to wear today", and none of the shame of wearing op shop clothes and hand-me-downs while other kids got to have cool stuff. because everyone wore the same stuff.

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I grew up with them. Free dress days were a misery because it revealed just how awful and home sewn and dorky my clothing was. In the end I just said no to them. At least in uniforms no one could bully anyone else for what they were wearing.

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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-10-24 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I am guessing you don't have a job with a uniform.

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You sound like a complete and utter brat, tbh.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly a uniform would be best because teenagers are little shits who push rules as far as they can.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2015-10-23 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
implying that it's impossible to push rules when there are uniforms

implying that pushing rules on CLOTHES is something teachers should really be concerned about

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How does a uniform stop that in any way, though?

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I always wanted to have a school uniform.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Uniform is best. I'm not convinced about the need to ~express yourself~ through clothing when you're in school. You're there to learn, and frankly, I think more negative judging goes on with fashion styles than anything.

But if there isn't a uniform, then yes, I do think there are such things as "appropriate" school dress, and very revealing clothes (on either girls or boys) are not appropriate. Now, I HATE how schools will send girls home for wearing low-cut shirts under the claim that they are "distracting" - that is a bullshit excuse, and sends the exact wrong message. But clothing can be inappropriate simply because it is not a good way to dress to school. No matter what people claim, there are "dress codes" in real life, whether official (like at work) or unofficial (what is okay to wear to certain events, like a funeral, etc). And I think it's fine to enforce that in a school setting.

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[personal profile] ketita 2015-10-23 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's better. I think a code works better than uniforms, though no matter what it should be applicable to both sexes. As in, if no tank-tops, none for everybody.
If there's a boy's/girl's uniform, everybody should be able to choose what parts of which they want, as long as it's part of the official uniform.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-10-23 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're going to institute a dress code, it should be 1984-style overalls. Otherwise what's the goddamn point?

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-23 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. School isn't an appropriate place to show off how stylish you are, push the boundaries of edgy fashion, or challenge societal norms of how much skin is appropriate to show in public. My schools didn't enforce dress codes and some of the outfits kids wore did make me uncomfortable and distracted. (Not just the girls. Guys wore shirts with gross pictures and lewd phrases all the time.) Articles about girls challenging dress codes and saying it's not their problem if their clothes are distracting infuriate me. They're pretending to be making some great feminist statement when they're really just self-absorbed children who don't care how other people feel as long as they can wear their fave outfits~~~~~~

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-10-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I wish school uniforms were used more. For several reasons.

1) Schools are not there for you to express yourself through fashion.
2) It saves parents tons of money each year.
3) It can stop bullying because regardless of social class, everyone is wearing the same thing. No one can be picked on for not wearing the latest designers jeans because you are all wearing khakis and a blue shirt.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I liked having uniforms in high school pretty much entirely because I've always been lazy and not a morning person, so it was nice not having to waste time picking out what to wear every day.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-10-24 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Uniforms are only okay if they are free. Requiring parents to pay for them makes it more difficult for poor parents. Also, girls uniforms should have a pants option.

But I have no feelings one way or another otherwise because I don't think they make any difference.

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[personal profile] nightscale 2015-10-24 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't like my uniform when I was at school but looking back it was probably for the best, kids still found ways of being shitty to each other about clothes(though it was mostly relegated to what kind of shoes you were wearing) but I get the feeling that they'd have been worse if we got to wear our own clothes.

Plus aside from the few kids who would go without ties or tried to hike up their skirts too short we didn't have to worry over dress code BS because we were all wearing the same thing.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-10-24 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
A dress code to a certain extent, and so long as it applied to BOTH sexes.

Uniforms are shit, but I have that belief because I grew up without uniforms until my freshman year of high school. It sucked, especially since we had debates about it all through middle school before the school system here finally tuled uniforms a thing. I felt sorry for the seniors that year when they went into affect.

This was a public school system btw.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-10-24 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
All Australian schools have uniforms, including the state schools. I think it teaches a measure of discipline in and of itself, having to wear one, and there are plenty of jobs around that also require uniforms.

For American school that don't require them? I'd say while different to having uniforms, a dress code may teach the same sort of clothing discipline and may even have an aspect that uniforms don't, that they are the student's choice, but they have to make that choice fit the rules.

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-24 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
down to earth dress code is the only solution

I'm not here for people happily suggesting uniforms because 1) they're expensive, 2) as someone who was transgender and closeted all through school, there are days I would think about killing myself rather than having to put on the school uniform so

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