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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-03 03:36 pm

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so close

yet so far away

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
First time I watched it, I wanted him to put the mask back on.
Second time, I thought it worked really well, especially the last few scenes. Now I really think he fits well.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, those people are welcome to go eat a bag of dicks with the anti-Finn and anti-Poe racists.

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[personal profile] fishnchips 2016-01-03 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What annoys me most about this is that he looks a lot like he could actually be related to the people he's related to in the movie. I think it's pretty perfect. But no, he's not the same flavour of boring, streamlined hotness, oh no! Seriously, Star Wars characters rarely fit the Hollywood-smoking-hot standard in any of the movies.

And... yeah, people miss a lot about his character/the way Adam Driver portrays him. I'm not sure if they completely spaced out throughout half of the movie. (The scene where he's standing sans-helmet in front of Snoke and Hux shows up is pretty telling.)

(Also, an interesting thing I noticed is that the people who complain about his looks are often people who get mad at anyone saying the same thing (looks unattractive/goofy/not Hollywood-hot enough) about a female character. That's pretty hypocritical.)

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, I think Driver is a cutie. I wish people would stop bashing him and Fisher

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Abrams made a mistake by having him take his mask off too soon. If he'd waited until the scene where he was trying to decide or not whether to kill Han to de-mask then a lost of the criticisms would not have come up. Removing the mask as early as he did took a lot of potential away from the character.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-01-03 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you that I think they're missing the point.

I disagree though that Star Wars id a kid's movie. It's a movie that can be enjoyed and is appropriately rated for kids - but that does not make it a children's movie.
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[personal profile] caterfree10 2016-01-03 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish people would take it seriously to not make fun of him while defending Carrie Fisher to the death. Like, I now feel awkward reblogging body positive stuff from people who'll then turn around and laugh at his looks. He's not even that bad (and especially nowhere near Benedryl Cumbersnatch levels of "why do people think this man is hot") and I could see myself falling in love with someone with comparable looks provided other traits are compatible with me. He's just average looking and I don't get the hate for him.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
He's not my cup of tea looks-wise, but I thought he was great in the role. CHEER UP EMO KID!
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2016-01-03 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought he was a brilliant choice. They've already done the Big Scary Villain thing; any attempt to copy that would fail to live up to the iconic Darth Vader. But a whiny, entitled manchild? The sort who, in the real world, doxes women on the internet or shoots up a high school? The sort that the average viewer is far, far more likely to have a run-in with? He ended up being scary in a totally different way, and it was awesome.

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[personal profile] gaffsie 2016-01-03 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to admit that the first time he took of his mask, I didn't quite know how to react. He was just so... soft-looking that it took me entirely by surprise.

I think it's a pretty brilliant choice though (and it's so obviously a choice, because Adam Driver *can* look menacing when he wants to, and the styling for him - the much cooed over hair, my god! - was definitely chosen for a reason).

tl; dr: I went in not expecting to give a damn about the new "cool" villain, and went out being obsessed with him. (oops?)

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually feel really sorry for him when I read those posts sometimes. Like, it's not a silly haircut he could easily change if he wanted to (emphasis on the WANTED). It's his bone structure.

And I don't even think like he looks that bad? He looks like an average dude? I actually liked that. And I thought he portrayed his character well, which is all I ever want from an actor (I mean, I have a lot of love for Han Solo, but I genuinly thought Harrison Ford was kinda terrible in this half the time?). I'm actually curious as to what will become of him. Definitely more interested in him than that... Snoak thing.

Seriously awesome looking hair tho.
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[personal profile] nightscale 2016-01-03 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought he was a good choice for the villain, he was suitably menacing in a more overt way with his mask on, and while I definitely found it jarring when he first took his mask off because of how young and almost ordinary he looked, I don't doubt that was entirely intentional.

Though I do wonder how he gets all of his hair into the helmet in the first place, it's so floofy!

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, I've seen comments along the lines of "he wasn't badass enough, just a whiny emo kid."

Yeah, THAT'S THE WHOLE DAMN POINT. You don't have a scene in which Stormtroopers casually back away from one of his temper tantrums without inviting the audience to laugh at him.

And post-Han's death, he'd stepped up and become something much more frightening. I'm really looking forward to what his characterization will be in the next movie.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
They probably felt that they need whoever killed Han to be butt ugly.

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[personal profile] elaminator 2016-01-03 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen too many of those comments (though I have seen them), but I'm aware it depends on where you go. They don't make sense to me either, given we're not supposed to see him as a 'natural' in this role; he's not a Sith yet, he's just a frustrated, insecure man, and we're supposed to see similarities to his family. (IMO he does look the part of Han and Leia's kid. And is really hot as Kylo, 'Hot topic' or not, but that's unrelated.)

I've seen a lot of appreciation for Kylo Ren because he feels like an actual (obviously flawed and fucked up) person, and as such has a lot of internal conflict that a lot of villains don't. (Like Darth Maul. I LOVED Darth Maul because of his design, he looked amazing and his lightsaber battle with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan was epic, but if you want actual substance you have to look elsewhere.) He has more personality then you might expect too (he makes jokes, and the 'blowing up at the slightest provocation' was both hilarious and terrifying), so at least for me it was easier to form an attachment to him.

So I like Kylo partially for the fact that he's a different villain for the SW universe, and whichever way his storyline goes I feel like it'll be a good one; there are so many places you could take it, and Adam Driver has done an excellent job with the role so far. (An odd but potent combination of whiny, sassy, frightening and insecure.)

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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-01-03 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a kids movie? Riiiiight.

People at my theater laughed at him

(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
When he took the the mask off, several people at the premiere I was at, laughed. :/ Then the giggling continued whenever he was mask-less on screen. No giggling when he was in full get-up.

Once I got home and went online to read the first reviews and fan reactions, I half expected him to be mocked everywhere, basically dismissed as a proper villain because of his looks, but the good reviews pleasantly surprised me.

My theater experience influenced my perception of him, though, and I wish it didn't. The laughter stuck with me for some reason, it's difficult to forget because it happened several times during the film. :(

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think he's ugly but he really looks nothing like Han and Leia.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Side note why is everyone so hung up on the fact that he doesn't look like his parents? Like...I don't look ANYTHING like either of my parents, but I've never met someone who was weirded out or surprised by the fact I don't look like them. Is it really that unusual?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well it is a popular series so varying opinions make sense. He's not classically handsome and people are fairly harsh critics even with the ones who are.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, OP.

I have always found Adam Driver incredibly attractive, so while I can accept that he's not everyone's cup of tea, I don't get why they're so adamantly damning him for his looks. Like many in the thread, I will say I don't think the hair or the high neckline suited his features, but that's a styling choice, not anything innate with Driver's looks.

I also buy him as the descendant of his relatives, though that's apparently not a popular opinion.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-04 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but he's still uggo as fuck.

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