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[ SECRET POST #3303 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3303 ⌋

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But it's so easy to make a spoiler tag. Like. So fucking easy. It takes ten seconds and that's only if you type really slow.

exactly. And I doubt anyone makes a huge spoilery secret like this without even considering that it's a spoiler. making a spoiler warning takes two seconds.

We should just never talk about movies/shows/books/games. Ever. Because you never know if that one person who doesn't know how Citizen Kane ends is around. Just watch things, and keep that stuff deep inside you.

I feel like your sentence has nothing to do with mine. Are they related at all? How is taking two seconds to warn for spoilers equating to "WELL THEN WE SHOULD NEVER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING EVER" to you?

Because everything is a spoiler. EVERYTHING. Like, people will actually say stupid shit like, "Acknowledging that a character is not dead at the end of episode ______ is a spoiler!"

So how do you determine what is a 'spoiler'? A spoiler to someone else might not be one for you. So the only way to truly be safe from spoilers is to either A) Never talk about anything you watch B) Post a general spoiler warning.

Something like this would work!

Oh please, determining a spoiler is not difficult and you're being melodramatic. Case puts that warning because it isn't HIS responsibility to mark for spoilers and such. And no one is saying it's against the rules to make a spoilery secret. That really has nothing to do with the conversation though in which it is common courtesy to take two seconds (yes, suuuuch an effort) to mark your damn spoilers.

The spoiler is marked. At the top of the page.

A general spoiler doesn't mean anything when you don't know what's going to be spoken about, though? That warning's just there so Case doesn't get harassed about other people's secrets.

Seriously, all you'd have to do is state what you're going to be talking about first, instead of diving right into the spoiler where everyone can see it straight away. I really don't see how that's difficult.

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kaijinscendre - 2016-01-20 01:59 (UTC) - Expand

No. Sure for a movie that just came out, add a spoiler tag. Something from years ago? No. That is your responsibility to avoid spoilers.

How the fuck can one avoid a spoiler for EVERYTHING? It's one thing to not go on a specific forum or read fanfic within a certain fandom, but your suggestion is dumb and unreasonable since this place is multi-fandom.

You avoid it by not going on the internet if you are that worried about being spoiled for something that happened years ago. :D

You're being a total jerk about this, tbh. Just because you don't care about spoilers doesn't mean that no one else should.

I agree that it's really easy to 1) know when something is a major spoiler, and 2) at least state the fandom at the beginning of your comment so people can skip it straight away, instead of explicitly talking about the spoiler first, with people only realizing it's a spoiler after they've already read it.

For something that happened years ago, no. You are coming to a website that explicitly states there will be spoilers. There have always been spoilers. There will always be spoilers.

Also, spoilers don't actually ruin your experience so there is also that.

nayrt

Who in the world are you to say whether or not a spoiler will ruin someone's experience? And you're still evading as to why it's so very hard for you to take the minimal effort to be a decent person.

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Why is it so important for you that you avoid spoilers for EVERYTHING? I honestly don't get this. For new stuff, absolutely, because not everybody has the chance to see something first thing and should get the chance to experience it unspoiled, but for things that are years old? Like the secret, which is apparently something that happened in 2009? You had over six years in which you could have seen the show. You had six years in which you could have been spoiled for the show without even giving a damn, because you weren't watching the show a the time. But you were accidentally spoiled now and it's a big enough deal to fly in a rage over?

And for an anecdote: I've never seen Sixth Sense, but I know that Bruce Willis Is A Ghost. One of the best movie plot twists ever, apparently, so great that it became long-lasting meme, and I'll never experience it because I've been spoiled for it. Does it suck? Sure. But I don't see why I should rage about the fact that I've been spoiled for a movie that came out in 1999.

Conversely, why is it so important for you to spoil everything? It's not really your business why someone hasn't seen a particular show yet. It could be absolutely any reason. Doesn't change the fact that a spoiler warning takes nearly zero effort on your part.

So you assume I don't use spoiler tags just because I don't get why people get so hung up on them? Sorry to disappoint, I actually use spoiler warnings. They cost me nothing and I consider it a courtesy.

My point is that I think it's ridiculous to expect and demand spoiler warnings for media that came out years ago. No one cries about spoilers in secrets about any of the first six Star Wars movies, even though there are people who haven't seen them yet.

Basically, I see it like this: spoiler warnings are a courtesy, so I add them (even for old stuff). Not throwing a fit when someone accidentally spoils you (especially about old stuff) is also a courtesy, so I don't do it. Could OP have added a spoiler warning? Yes. But conversely, spoiler!anon could have just not thrown a fit; not commenting would have taken nearly zero effort on their part.

That's a strawman. It's not that people want to spoil everything, it's that they want to be able to have conversations about the subject matter with people who know what happened without constantly having to account for some possibly fictional group that hasn't seen it yet.

Experiment: for the next week or so, every time you talk about any work, put a specific spoiler warning for every fact, including the episode of page or part of the movie it's in. At the end of the week, let me know how much fun those conversations were.

Not only do I disagree, but that literally has nothing to do with what I just said.

The show has been over for years. That event happened years ago. Why does the spoiler warning that Case put on the top not suffice? You know there are likely to be spoilers on this forum.

Do people who are so terrified of spoilers not go anywhere on the internet because they might get spoiled?

Why does the spoiler warning that Case put on the top not suffice?

An anon explained, multiple times, what this is for, and it's not fair to expect people to just avoid F!S entirely because others don't feel like taking three seconds to mark major character death spoilers.

Do people who are so terrified of spoilers not go anywhere on the internet because they might get spoiled?

This is what you seem to think people should do...

And you still didn't address the entire point of my original comment up there, which is that making a spoiler tag is EASY. Like painfully easy. It takes seconds. I don't understand why people are so vehement about wanting to not do it. It's an amount of effort so small as to be entirely inconsequential to anyone who has the time and resources to be browsing Fandom!Secrets.

I don't understand why people are so vehemently against being spoiled for something that happened years ago.

It's a small amount of effort no one is obligated to do. And if you think people should be obligated to do it, that is on you. And if you think that makes someone an asshole (apparently spoilers are super serious) then I am worried about your priorities.

I don't understand why people are so vehemently against being spoiled for something that happened years ago.

Not everyone experiences media in the same way. For some people being spoiled ruins the whole thing.

And if you think that makes someone an asshole

I never said that and I don't really appreciate the assumption. I do think it makes you lazy, but not an asshole unless you do it on purpose.

(In case it isn't clear, I'm none of the anons in this thread, have never seen this show and don't really care about it. I'm just sick of people getting really upset about having to make almost no effort in order to display what is imo basic courtesy. And I've been burned by both negligent and malicious spoilers before, and it fucking sucks.)

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diet_poison - 2016-01-21 18:50 (UTC) - Expand

You do realize that a lot of people wouldn't even consider that to be a spoiler because the show ended so long ago, right? They probably didn't tag it because they didn't think anyone would care about a show that's been off the air for a few years now.

How does that in any way negate my point?

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