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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-25 06:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #3309 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3309 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 053 secrets from Secret Submission Post #473.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
blitzwing: ([magi] drakon)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-01-25 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't some of those characters space rocks? I thought the space rocks were non-binary.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
They're presented as female and referred to with female pronouns in the show. They're "non-binary" by alien terms, but they are female characters.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
That's sort of a technicality. They all present as women and refer to their leaders as matriarchs and so on.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Pic not related? They are genderless, not female. Stop appropriating one of the few representations of non-binary gender identity in media.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-25 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Go back to Tumblr.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
die cis scum
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-26 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
They're biologically non-sexually-dimorphic but nothing in the show indicates they're actually agender. In terms of human culture, which the main Gem characters live and participate in, they are female.

If it's supposed to be a representation of non-binary gender identity (which I doubt), it's doing a shit job of it.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-25 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the female characters in Adventure Time and Gravity Falls are a lot more interesting.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Considering the art used, part of me is thinking this is that one anon who has a thing for PK.

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can't wait for the day this show dies a fiery death and every fucking Tumblrina on the internet cries herself to sleep for a month (you know, until the next big social justice-y shitshow comes along).
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Don't y'all have fanartists you need to harass?

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know that I agree that they are all that deep or likable, but that's personal opinion so I won't argue that point.

I will ask you what you're watching that you think there aren't other animated shows out there like that? Like just look at all the things Steven Universe takes from (rips off) there are TONS of deep and likable female characters in anime.

One example of an anime SU takes from - Utena, it is fucking deep as hell and full of great female characters.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is probably an unfair assumption, but my first thought was that OP meant western cartoons - the stuff airing on CN, Nickelodeon, etc - in which case, I agreed with them, since with Korra off the air SU is probably the show with the most visible, consistent, thorough and 'deep' female characters.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say it's an unfair assumption since I thought maybe OP meant western cartoons as well but since the secret didn't specify, I thought bringing up anime might be a suggestion OP hadn't thought of. Particularly if OP is younger and perhaps had not seen things like Utena or any of the other old school animes SU takes from.

Like I agree that western cartoons definitely need more compelling female representation, but I wouldn't agree with a sweeping generalization that gives SU the only credit in the history of animation (even in regards to western cartoons.)

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Utena was ok, but you can only recc super old darlings for so long. this feels like people recommending Lilo & Stitch forever and ever for the sister relationship. you know one movie or series won't last fans forever?
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[personal profile] gobbledigook 2016-01-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe the network will try to mimic what this show brought to the table in the future. Despite SU suffering from a hype backlash right now, I still quite like it, and am looking forward to how it affects how the future cartoon network shows will be like.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe the network will try to mimic what this show brought to the table in the future.

Oh FUCK no. We got enough fluffy, brightly-colored bullshit on CN right now.
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[personal profile] gobbledigook 2016-01-26 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry to say, but with the success of Steven Universe, I doubt CN won't at least try to take another stab at whatever they feel went right with it... Maybe they'll try out a new aesthetic though!
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-26 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, what DO you want on CN? Is it the color palette that bugs you? The fact that it's generally optimistic? The fact that it can be cheesy? And it is CN, after all.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-01-26 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Same - and why's this a secret? I think a lot of people would agree!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-26 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Korra, Demona (Gargoyles), Tsukino Usagi/Sailormoon, pretty much all the female characters from Justice League? Check them out.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-01-26 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. Lol.

edit: Thought I posted this into a different thread. So reposting it. Sentiment still stands though.

[personal profile] lady_dragoon 2016-01-26 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to guess that Steven Universe is the only cartoon OP has ever watched with female characters in it.

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