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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-02 06:31 am

[ SECRET POST #422 ]


⌈ Secret Post #422 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 16 pages, 386 secrets from Secret Submission Post #061.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 ] too big, [ 1 ] too small to read, [ 1 ] shout-out to all you ASSHOLES!!!
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[identity profile] svati-arcturus.livejournal.com 2008-03-02 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the OP but...someone's feeling a little angry :o

...*using my all was well icon to indicate that I don't disagree with what you are saying b-but that's like an American getting all wanky because American is such a technically *

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[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2008-03-02 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't like being called "British"

we don't?
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[identity profile] kenboy.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Nienna is a 23-year old Brit living in the States and spends most of her time hiding from Anglophiles who want her to "JUST SAY SOMETHING! LIEKOMGWTFBBQ!!1!!"

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[identity profile] eibborn.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'll bet that the people of "Britannia" speak with English accents, though. ;)

I had no idea that "British" was an offensive term! Thank you for telling me! To think that I've been using it for all of my life. I always just assumed that it was a way of labelling a person as from the British Isles. Or is that offensive too? :x
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[identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's not.

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[identity profile] athousandwinds.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's not, at least not to me. I actually prefer it, since otherwise people will assume "English". I'm sorry the OP has heard it as a term of racial abuse, but that only proves that anything can be used as a term of abuse if said in the right (or rather, wrong) tone of voice. The word "British" is fairly neutral, in itself, like saying "I'm American" even if you identify very strongly as, say, a Texan.

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-03 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I watched enough of the series to know that much. Thanks for insulting my intelligence by assuming I don't. I meant that for all intents and purposes in the context of the show, Britannia is the equivalent to the British Empire. It stuck me as a freaky coincidence, is all.

And just to clarify, my character does identify himself as British, because he was born when it was still officially called Great Britain (to be exact, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland - he was born in 1904). So yes, I did do my research.

Way to lash out at me for something that was completely not the point of the secret.
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[identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Speak for yourself. I couldn't give two monkeys uncles if I'm called British or English.
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[personal profile] redseeker 2008-03-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I would have thought a British (lol) equivalent of 'yank' is probably something like 'limey'.

And The "United Kingdom" or "Great Britain" no longer exists

...I'm sure someone would have mentioned that... instead of continuing to use the terms "Britain", "British", and "the UK" in just about every area of life :/ Just last term I took a uni course in "The Modern British Novel".

Also from your other thread (I skimmed this whole thread before posting): people associate "Brit" with "racist"

That's another thing I haven't come across either. If we're talking about the whole British Empire thing... well, technically the English are to blame for that.

I think perhaps you're in the minority. You say you live in America now? Maybe (and I mean no offence by this) you're a little out of touch with most people's attitudes (that said, I believe the English are the only ones who don't mind being called British). Essentially, being "British" just means that you are from Britain, from the British Isles. That's just geography. It's not a racial slur of any kind, or not as far as I know, and I have lived here for twenty years.
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[personal profile] herongale 2008-03-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
We don't like being called "British" any more than Americans like being called "Yanks".

Americans are not generally that anal. But then neither are most BRITS.

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[identity profile] anax.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
I had no clue that I was supposed to get offended when someone calls me a Yank.

Thanks for keeping me updated on when I should be pissed off!

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[identity profile] fidchell.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hes not "British" hes from a fictional place called Britannia that is actually descended from Gaul (France) in the time of the Roman Empire - but you'd know that if you watched it.

It sounds like you don't know, but in its original form, Gaul was an ethnic or tribal name that was used in Celtic language as a whole, and believed to be borrowed from Latin around 400BC. It had no specific association with France until Asterix happened and popularized the word as synonymous to France in modern language, and in historical circles, it's still also used for ancient Belgium Switzerland and northern parts of Italy and Spain. Originally, it was used to describe Celtic tribes as a whole.

Back during the Roman conquista, which is when the Holy Britannian Empire was formed, Celts (or Gaul, as they were referred to at the time), inhabited Britain, Ireland, most of Northern Europe and even pieces of Asia.

In other words, your attempt to insult the poster's intelligence is nothing but rude and ignorant, because Holy Britannian Empire could effectively start in any of those territories, and the amount of reverence and deitification they put into the name 'Arthur' in audio-dramas points to British Islands.

I agree with you that Lelouch is at least half-French if you compare to real world politics, though, because his mother has a distinctly French name and considering the territory the Holy Britannian Empire would cover, France would be a part of Britannia.

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[identity profile] bubbly.livejournal.com 2008-03-03 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to think of an appropriate analogy to go with my Americanness, but I'm struggling here. I'm Missourian and American. Both. You're English and British. I admittedly don't know much about the culture over there, but "British", to me anyway, has always just been another grouping term like "American". It's not meant in a bad way, but instead of saying, "I'm planning on going to England & Wales & Scotland & Ireland", I'm much more apt to say, "I'm planning on going to Britain." Four birds, one stone, eh?

I'm sorry that my fellow Americans have made you resent the word, but that doesn't mean that everyone does. There are PLENTY of reasons I should resent being called an American, given even JUST your analogies. But, I dunno, I just don't take offense to being called American or North American or Western Hemispherian any more than I do being called a Missourian.

Though I'm sure my analogy will be proved wrong because I'm an ugly American, too. And nothing will be able to change your mind (which I can respect), but taking your issue with the word and making it EVERY English/Welsh/Scottish/Irish person's issue is just as bad as taking an issue and making it EVERY American's. :\

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-03 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Do your research before talking about fictional places that aren't fictional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia

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http://community.livejournal.com/stupid_free/971478.html

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