[ SECRET POST #3333 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3333 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[iCarly]


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[Sublunary: --enter the moonlight--]


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03.
[Tokusatsu (Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Ultraman)]


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[Harry Potter + Pokemon, Wonder Woman, Anne of Green Gables, Looney Tunes]


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09.
[Kyuuketsuki Hime Miyu]


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10.
[Usagi Drop]


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[Ranma 1/2]
















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Comments

[intrigueing]

I gotta say Snape/Hermione is one of those ships I just do not get. Not one of those ones that I just deeply disagree with the argument for it like Snape/Harry, it's just...I cannot understand what people see in it. Every manifesto just confused the heck out of me.

[(Anonymous)]

agreed.

Well, I don't really understand shipping young kids with adults. And I know they get "older" but it's even weirder to me to think about a relationship between a teacher and a student they had when that student was 11.

And there's not even any sexy, simmering, intense moments between the two. There's really not, pedophilia aside - I don't get the ship or what the appeal possibly could be. Besides Hermoine being the self-insert for many female readers who then proceeded to crush on Snape. (which I also cannot understand for the life of me, yuck)

[nonnymouscawitz]

Besides Hermoine being the self-insert for many female readers who then proceeded to crush on Snape.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Hermione is the female character with the most screentime, and she's got a lot of traits that young girls want to live up to. Meanwhile Snape hits all the teenage girl buttons of 'Older authority figure who is broody and dark but secretly good and I can change him!' (Yes I am both romantacizing and generalizing)

[(Anonymous)]

I remember seeing one than more Snape/Hermione shipper claim they had affairs with much older men when they were teenagers back in the early days of fandom. So there's that, too.

[(Anonymous)]

All of this!

[(Anonymous)]

These are pretty much exactly my thoughts on Snape/Hermione as well.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

If you want to understand... the way it works out most plausibly is that the two of them end up having to work together one-on-one for some reason -- whether it's a Marriage Law, an extracurricular project, a secret assignment for the Order, or Hermione acts as Snape's healer -- whatever the hook, it starts out very in-character. He's rude and impatient and bullying and belittling and wants nothing to do with her. She's an eager beaver and determined and a little naive and a lot insecure and desperate to prove herself (because he's the only teacher she has never managed to win over and that is a bitch of a situation).

Eventually, circumstances gradually force them to develop some sort of intimacy. They start seeing each other less as "great git" and "know-it-all" and more like people. They wonder at one another's strengths and skills. They make up for each other's weaknesses. The "sexy, simmering, intense moments" come much later. There's usually heavy-duty hurt/comfort and a ton of angst (she's a student or too young for him, he's irreparably broken and/or destined to die for the cause, what if someone finds out, etc). They become impossibly loyal to one another.

It's pretty standard stuff, to be honest.

The draw of the ship, at least for me, is really the development of intimacy with someone who is almost impossible to get to know and seeing how that intimacy changes both characters. Because that's what relationships do.

[(Anonymous)]

It never starts out in character, just admit it. Your ship is OOC fuckshit just like almost every other non-canon ship.

[(Anonymous)]

So you don't buy that they're "so smart that they can't relate to or have a conversation with anyone except each other"?

[intrigueing]

No...? Why? Hermoine's a frickin' teenager, I don't care how smart she is she isn't on an adult level. Plus Snape isn't that intelligent anyway apart from the purely academic sense. He doesn't have any of the emotional intelligence Hermione shows in, for example, book 4 with Harry and Ron's fight, or book 5 with Cho's emotional problems.

And Snape has NEVER shown a hint of respect or understanding for Hermione's intelligence. He constantly calls her a show-off and silly and by all evidence he believes it, not just says it to be cold or something. He shows Harry more "respect" (in the "Potter's such a capable and sneaky troublemaker, I totally believe he could pull off xyz shit" sense) than Hermione, who he pretty much dismisses.

[(Anonymous)]

This anon thinks it's unmitigated guff.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, the old "I'm losing this argument, but I'll pretend I'm too amused to be upset by it" tactic. Classic.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but for my part, I ship it because they both have great minds and I like the idea of them bickering over potions or magical theory like a literal old married couple.

[(Anonymous)]

You mean you like the idea of two original characters called "Snape" and "Hermione" doing those things you mentioned.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not what I said, but go ahead and take it however you wanna take it.

[(Anonymous)]

A parallel universe version of yourself is still you.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, same. I'm in it for the bickering [and the time travel fic]. Fics can play fast and loose with their characterizations but eh, I have yet to see a non-canon HP ship that doesn't have a least a little OOC going on.

The only thing that I don't like about Snape/Hermione is the Lily!bashing. Ruins a lot fic for me :/

[(Anonymous)]

But the Harry and Weasley family bashing is a-okay.

[philstar22]

I admit I have a very, very visceral reaction to this ship. Mostly because I relate quite a bit to Hermione. And the idea of ever being paired with someone who treats me the way Snape treated Hermione horrifies me. I had teachers like that. Hermione and Neville got it worse even than Harry did, and there isn't the excuse of Snape's feelings towards James (which isn't an excuse considering Harry was a child, but it is at least understandable in a way his treatment of Neville and Hermione isn't).

[(Anonymous)]

I had teachers like that. Hermione and Neville got it worse even than Harry did[...]

And right here, that's the reason why I hate Neville fans. Seriously, you actually think Hermione and Neville got it worse than Harry?! I don't even like Harry whereas Hermione is one of my favorite characters but I still think you're full of shit.

Oh, and before somebody accuses me of shipping Snape and Hermione, I strongly dislike the idea of them together because they have nothing in common (and Hermione deserves way better). Well, that and I kind of ship Snarry.

[philstar22]

Yes, I do think Neville was bullied by Snape worse than Harry, especially considering Neville was clearly a very vulnerable student who would not handle it as well as Harry could. Snape treated all three of them horribly. But I do think Neville got the worst of it.

And another factor for me is the content of what the insults were. Snape's targeting of Harry was mostly based either around his father or his celebrity status. Snape's targeting of Hermione was about her schoolwork or her appearance. He, a teacher, actually called her a know it all and also commented on her teeth. And with Neville, it was all about pushing at a clearly vulnerable child and rather than actually trying to help him learn, openly mocking him to other students.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, that's a damn silly reason to hate Neville fans. Since Harry is quite a bit sturdier than Neville and certainly more self-confident, yes, Neville has it worse in Snape's class: I don't remember Snape ever reducing Harry to tears. At least Snape never tried to wrong-foot Harry with a new instructor, in front of his classmates, with a speech about how incompetent he is. Snape has the true bully's knack of singling out the most fragile person in a group to be the butt of his wit.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even like Harry

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I kind of ship Snarry

If that's your usual line of thinking, no wonder you have such a stupid and bizarre reason for hating Neville fans of all people.

[litalex]

I like Snape/Harry, but totally can't stand Snape/Hermione. Don't know why.