[ SECRET POST #3346 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3346 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Donald Trump / Milo Yiannopoulos)



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[Pathologic]


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[Legends of Tomorrow]


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[Tom Hiddleston in Crimson Peak]


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(How to be a Serial Killer)


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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Comments

[fscom]

12. http://i.imgur.com/abYG2iB.png

[(Anonymous)]

Simple: most people can't be assed into doing the research, so they go off of what they know. Sad, but true.

[(Anonymous)]

I would dread to read your fics if you really think 5 minutes is enough to learn the cultural differences between Japanese and American schools. As someone who has actually attended a Japanese school.

I think "dry-raping" is a bit of an overreaction. I'd rather the fic acknowledge that they are setting it in an American school - which is totally fine - than call it a Japanese school but really it's identical to American high school (which also, incidentally, I wouldn't describe as a "Dry-raping" experience)

[(Anonymous)]

I have a question! Are Japanese schools like their anime counterparts? Most anime high schools look like an idealized version of the real thing if not a straight out fantasy with the crazy powerful student councils and school idols among other things.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I can somewhat understand their beef with lack of research, but I can't take a complaint/review seriously when that kind of "it's so bad it's like it's RAPING me" hyperbole is used.

It's just some bullshit tactic used by people to try and exaggerate their issue in the most obnoxious, and honestly kind of offensive way to get across how ANGRY!!!1!!! it makes them.

I got enough of that bullshit from sporking communities and by now I'm just fed up with it.

(Not as bad as that but still annoying- "this badfic traumatized me" . Look unless the fic triggers some memory, or is actually about some sort of dark or violent/sexual subject matter, then this is laughable. If some 14 year old's run of the mill wish fufillment fantasy actually traumatizes you, then that's a problem with you and not the author.)

I just really hate when people use stupid hyperbole to convince people that what they're complaining about is the worst thing ever, rather than actually explaining their issues like a normal person.

[iceyred]

Ignoring your interesting language ('dry-raping'? Really?), I can't say I understand what the hell is so hard about writing Japanese high schools. There's a kajillion series out there that show what those are like and there's tons of stuff out there about them.

[fishnchips]

This basically (questionable wording aside) describes one of the main reasons I have given up on reading Haikyuu!! fanfic a long time ago.

[(Anonymous)]

American high school AUs are the most boring type of AU to me.

High school slice-of-life anime is the most boring type of anime to me.

Putting them together would be a fic specifically engineered to put me to sleep.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Devil's Advocate here, but if you write something set in a culture you don't know and get something wrong, you can get flak for that. If you write something in your own culture to avoid that, you can still get flak. Basically it's not okay to write for any fandom from another country?

Hypothetical question, since I have written for a fandom set in another era and country than my own. But it wasn't easy, often required help, and the things you needed to research weren't always easy to figure out or find out.

Maybe people are concerned about the minutia.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, the kind of thing that 5 minutes of Googling wouldn't catch. The kind of thing 5 hours of Googling might not catch.

And also, no, if it's an AU, it's not doing a damn thing to canon or the characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel the same way about the Les Mis fandoms. There are so many American AUs floating around and it baffles me because, in Les Mis' case in particular, the setting is actually pretty important. It just feels wrong if they aren't French.

Personally,I'd be worried about getting it wrong.

[kallanda_lee]

I mean, I don't write for anime, but especially with tumble culture being what it is - I can see how a lot of people would be weary of writing another culture and getting stuff wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like you give way too much of a fuck about this.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm curious if OP feels the same about anime dubs that anglicize names and places.

[(Anonymous)]

I tend to agree.

I mean, if they're not American they might just have a really boring taste, but otherwise... it reminds me of the Americans who felt entitled to "finally" getting to see HP in America.

just worse, because there's at least something interesting about the American wizarding word and because Britain is already one shade of mainstream blandness.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing is being "dry raped". No matter what fanfic is written, and how bad and how angry it makes you-the canon will still exist as it does.

Now quit being a lunatic.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure I'm quite as angry about it as you OP, but it's annoying, I agree. Lots of writers aren't interested in doing ANY research, not even a few minutes. They'll just guess or go from faulty memories or pull it out of their asses as they write, figuring that nobody will care. The sad part is, that's true for a lot of readers. As long as they get their shippy goodness, none of the other details really matter. Certainly not culture!

[blitzwing]

Why bother getting mad about something you don't like? Most coffeeshop AUs are crap, you don't see me ragging at the authors about how they're ruining the characters by putting them in AU I don't like.

[(Anonymous)]

I can sort of forgive those AUs because those are usually mediocre so the laziness isn't even surprising.

What I can't stand is those mostly well written and even IC non-AU fics, written for a canon set in Japan, where the characters use fucking USA dollars during their daily life.
(Looking at you, Kuroko no Basket fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

I missed the "dry raping" part in first read xD . Alas, yep troll!

Then again, troll make a good point - not for Japanese based canon, but any-country based canon. We do have a lot of USian teens that take things as universal and I would be rich each time I seen dollars in a country that has a currency that is different (and sure, some shops take foreign ones and give you the price for exchange goods and my company does that with Euroes as we are in Scotland). Then again, we all learn through experience and if no one tells the author what is wrong - they might not know.

Then again ... if I could get away from USian school AUs or university ones, I'd be a very happy man. Sure, could write one and sure it proves there are readers for that but damn it "Skins" were kinda universal for lots of teens as a high school experience? Even if it was set in UK. "Harry Potter" also was, for me and my peers, even for USian ones!

[dahli]

Not American here, but from what I've noticed most authors are young and tend to write about what they are most familiar with. And also they tend to insert their own taste and stuff into the characters they are writing. Like I've learned a lot from American high schools from reading fanfics.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not American or British but the thing is that the high school systems and cultures in these countries are vastly different AND to many people their specific experiences in their system plus the shared experiences of everyone else in their country who went there are loaded with nostalgia like nothing else. That's why the Japanese have high school als a setting so often. It's also wwhy many people like to imagine their favorite characters in the context of their own high school experience. Yeah, I've read stories where people were simply too lazy and just wrote the supposed japanese high school as if it were an American high school but if they bother to call it AU and really transport the whole thing I don't mind. I wouldnn't read it either way because I went to high school somewhere else and the settings at US, UK or Japanese high schools are strange to me and do not give me anything.

[(Anonymous)]

In a similar vein, one of my biggest pet peeves in HP fic is when things get Americanized--or, even worse when the author forgets that the show does not take place in the present time and that not only do electronics not work at Hogwarts--nor most pureblood places probably--but that even if they could the students would not have MP3 players or iPods or iPhones...the'd have walkmen/CD Players and landline phones.

[(Anonymous)]

I get what you're saying but... "dry-raping" is a BIT much. Calm down, take a walk or something. Yeesh.

[(Anonymous)]

But I mean, is this even really a major problem in anime fandoms? I've been in a lot of them, for nigh on 15 years now, and I can't remember ever running across a fic of this specific type, let alone one that was popular. American high school AUs, sure, but with characters that don't already attend high school in their normal setting.

I don't know, man, your complaint is just really, really specific but also... a non-issue as far as I can tell.