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Everyone loves it. You don't. Why?

LOTR I guess. It's not the 'worst written thing evar' to me, I just... the writing is so tangental that I can't deal with it. He seemed great at world building to me, but I feel like no one ever said, "Hey, rein it in, yo."

NAYRT - The issue with Tolkein is that IMHO, he wasn't really writing a book. He was writing an epic poem in narrative form. So it wasn't reined in because that would've defeated the entire purpose... at the same time, if you're more interested in character-driven plotlines and don't really care what a mountain looks like, the book's not going to do anything for you.
That was my precise problem with LOTR; I recognized that I was holding genius in my hands, but it still wasn't what I look for in a book. Although the first one was still enjoyable.

Re: What's the worst "well-written" show, movie, or book?

philstar22 - 2016-04-21 01:18 (UTC) - Expand

YES.

It's a stylistic choice. It's cool if it doesn't work for you but it's not like he was trying to write a novella and fucked up and missed by 800 pages. It's how he wanted to tell the story and format it as a heroic epic.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 00:32 (UTC) - Expand

Same, but this thread has made me consider that it's just a little too flowery and overdone, and that's not what I looked for.

I did see Fellowship for the first time this week and honestly really liked it. It works a bit better as a movie, where the visuals can help the epicness.

It's been fifteen years since I saw it so I don't really remember, but IIRC the To Kill a Mockingbird movie didn't do much for me, even though most people contend it was one of the best adaptations out there. I think it may have been partly that because I'd just read the book, I found it too hard to remove myself from my impressions of it. Still, I happened to catch a bit of it recently, and the acting still seemed a bit hollow to me.

Breaking Bad. I acknowledge it's objectively good, but I can't get through it because I want to strangle all of the characters.

The Soprano's. It's good but jut not my thing.

I also felt that way about BB. Hated everyone except Mike and Saul.

This is why Better Call Saul is ideal, because most of the characters are tolerable if not actively likeable.

I hate Breaking Bad too.

all those middle age man is have a life crisis so needs to cheat on his wife with a teenager type stories

just shove me out a window already

Agreed.

ah yah that kinda story can fuck right outta here

what are some examples?

Lost in Translation comes to mind - but that movie was terrible for a lot of other reasons. Mainly in how it treated Japan and Japanese people.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 01:27 (UTC) - Expand

Bonus points if the middle aged man is also a writer and makes no qualms about being the author's self insert.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 15:40 (UTC) - Expand

Basically any artsy film that tries to be ~deep~ but is just dumb and pretentious.

the movie "Her" come to mind, from a recent conversation
"Blue is the warmest color"

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 15:40 (UTC) - Expand

The movies of Terrence Malick.

They're obviously visually beautiful, and smart, and well-made, and textured. I just... really don't think his approach to cinema is the right approach at all. Like, just the things that he emphasizes and the lack of urgency to it, I guess? The lapidary quality.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 15:41 (UTC) - Expand

Idk if Game of Thrones is still considered Superior TV(tm) or if it's passed into the realm of guilty pleasure, but either way I could never get into it.

Re: What's the worst "well-written" show, movie, or book?

herpymcderp - 2016-04-21 03:44 (UTC) - Expand

Fucking 21 Grams. I understand why it got all the critical praise that it did. It's a well-written, well-acted movie, but what a miserable slog through the miserable lives of miserable people.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 15:42 (UTC) - Expand

Wizard of Oz. Because it is a bad adaption and misses the whole point by making it all a dream.

Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Because it is also a bad adaption. And the songs in the book were awesome, why cut them but then insert your own? And while I love Gene Wilder, his take on the character is all wrong.

Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, The Wire, or any show like that where everyone is unlikeable and there is no one to root for.

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philstar22 - 2016-04-21 16:04 (UTC) - Expand

Steven Universe. I'm sick of how popular it is for being such a load of shit, and everyone trying to convince me I need to watch it despite me telling them I think it's fucking awful. "NO, YOU NEED TO WATCH LIKE 40 EPISODES OF IT TO GIVE IT A FAIR SHAKE! IT TAKES UNTIL EPISODE 20 TO START GETTING REALLY GOOD!" is not going to get me excited for it. I don't have that much time to waste on a stupid fucking cartoon.

Anything by Wes Anderson. God that motherfucker is so overrated. You are not funny and you're not charming and you're not interesting. Go. Away.
Other worst "well-written" movies: Black Swan, Shawshank Redemption, Imitation Game, AI, Anchorman
Books: Pride and Prejudice(seriously fuck that book), The Little Prince, Watchmen(the graphic novel)
TV: The Walking Dead, The Wire, Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Downton Abbey

Edited 2016-04-21 01:24 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 15:45 (UTC) - Expand

*whispers* I get the appeal of Hamilton but the music is incredibly cheesy and not that good. That breakdown in "Satisfied" (the "rewind-wind-wind" part) sounds like a lesser Britney Spears b-side circa 1998.

Re: What's the worst "well-written" show, movie, or book?

(Anonymous) - 2016-04-21 03:07 (UTC) - Expand

Most of what comes to mind already has a sizable hatedom, like Lost or Heavy Rain. The only thing I can think of with no hatedom that sucks is the old movie If.

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feotakahari - 2016-04-21 05:16 (UTC) - Expand

The Sopranos. It's not BAD, but it suffers for me only watching it for the first time now and having already seen Breaking Bad and The Wire. I recognize they wouldn't exist without it, but I think both those shows improved upon its whole style and ethos in SUCH a big way

One big problem is the arcs. They are happening, but at a fucking glacial pace, and they don't really happen by seasons so nothing feels conclusive and everything just blurs together. It makes you feel like we never really get anywhere. And I mean, Breaking Bad took its own time to tell the story it wanted to tell but I NEVER felt like it wasn't moving, if you know what I mean.

Also I'm not gonna lie, season 3 was just BRUTAL to a bunch of its women and I almost fucking quit, it was so upsetting. And sure, like the rape of the therapist was done well, but that means it was just awful, like..unbearably awful. And I can't help kinda feeling like the fact that it was so big and so powerful and so well-received is the distinctly traceable catalyst for the way Game of Thrones has turned into fucking rape city.

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