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Radical SJWs on Tumblr are saying they'll vote for Trump over Hillary because at least he's not a literal war criminal. I want to revoke every single one of their voting licenses. You're telling me a former senator and Secretary of State has a worse political record than someone who has no political record? Holy fucking shit, who would have thought! How stupid do you have to be to think you're doing the greater good with that logic?

Some people do not understand how politics, or anything really, works.

I was so disappointed in one of the blogs I follow which has been very outspoken in favor of LGBT/POC/women's rights... saying they'd just not vote and let Trump be elected, rather than vote Hillary into office, because the country needs a wake-up call for 2020.

GFDI.

What bothers me the most is how this is all just warmed over Nader rhetoric from 2000, just replace Trump with W.

We did get a wake up call: that's why we're urging you to vote whichever Democrat gets nominated: we realized just how high the stakes really were and how badly sacrificing the now for a hypothetical future really is.

IOW, we had a president so bad it scared us, and he got two terms and we're still cleaning up after him. It didn't usher in a liberal utopia, it just made things worse for everyone

If we got a wake up we wouldn't be putting Republicrats up for a candidate We haven't had that wake up yet, because we have yet another pro-business, pro-status quo, pro doing fuck all about income inequality candidate who ran just because she feels she ought to be president. Maybe 2020 we'll wake up and not pass through someone from the party machine. Vote Trump to make the Democrats wake up in 2020, or if you cannot bring yourself to do that either stay home or vote third party. It is time to take the long view or we'll get to the next round and it'll be another party machine member who is moving right with the overton window, again. How far does it have to slip before someone takes a stand and say we'll have to take the hit until we get candidates who stop the slide? The longer we leave it, the worse the hit will be, but the more far right we'll have become.

Yes, by all means, let's elect someone who will take away most of the country's rights, because we need to be taught a lesson at the expense of people's lives and livelihoods...

Yeah, we do. We haven't learned that lesson any other way, and we are still sliding towards surrendering important civil rights under Hillary too. It is just going more slowly. By all means, lets keep slowly boiling this frog 'cause that won't end badly either.

Can you give really specific examples of how we're "sliding towards surrendering important civil rights under Hillary"?

I'll be honest with you, your line of thinking is genuinely frightening to me.

TTIP. It is all about surrender of civil rights to corporate entities, and Hillary is a major cheerleader for it. Law and Order privacy rights are also things she will take a strong line against. She'll probably also continue her previous policy stances on black male youths, which will see more and more fed to for-profit prisons.

surrender of civil rights to corporate entities

Because Donald Trump is anything but corporate.

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Accelerationism is a stupid philosophy for stupid people.

What a solid argument.

Has it occured to you that nobody will learn their lesson, again? That everything will be shittier and the only thing that will bet aken from it would be "I guess we shouldn't have voted for that one guy?" changing nothing about how they voted or why?

Cause that's humanity.

I agree with this in theory. But then I look at the elite establishment GOP, which is absolutely being taught a lesson by their voter base right now, and I see AYRT's point as well.

If the Democrats learn anything from Trump winning, it will most likely be that to win, they have to be more like Trump. That won't be good for anyone.

This. The Democrats are already ridiculously conservative these days compared to where they used to be. Please, please, please don't shift our country even more to the right by letting Trump win. Our country is scary enough already.

We're not conservative. We're balk at most conservative rhetoric. Progressives are just that extreme. Please just start your own party. We do not want change by illiberal means. We do not want our individuality and liberty stomped out for the sake of the greater good.

Yes, the Democrat party balks at conservative rhetoric, but not conservative actions.

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We do not want our individuality and liberty stomped out for the sake of the greater good.

And yet the great rallying cry is "we know she is shit, but vote for Hillary for the greater good".

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Well, I guess it's a good thing enfranchisement is not up to you.

Most of them probably aren't old enough to vote anyway, and those who are will get over it by November or just stay home as usual. They can stomp their little purist feet as much as they want and make all kinds of grand declarations about how they'd rather vote for everyone from Trump to Zombie Hitler, but 99.9% of them are full of shit.

You're telling me a former senator and Secretary of State has a worse political record than someone who has no political record?

They're talking about her criminal record, not her political record. You're changing the conversation to suit your own bias. HTH.

What criminal record? She's never been arrested, indited, or anything else.

Only because of her political power, a fact which is plainly obvious if you look beyond the tip of your own nose.

Trump is presumably a future war criminal, but Hillary has already done some very bad stuff, such as supporting a coup in Honduras and Radical Islamist Terrorists^TM in Syria & Libya. I refuse to endorse her past behavior by voting for her.

I suggest voting third party.

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