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⌈ Secret Post #3469 ⌋

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Agreed. I don't know why "anti" communities even exist. Just more "stop liking what I don't like". I'd think a better use of one's time would be to focus on what they do enjoy, not what they don't.

Agreed. I can see the appeal in the sense that for some people, it can be a good means of venting with others who feel the same way...but there's only so far that ranting attitude can go, only so long it'll last, too. After a while it'd just start sounding too much like an echo chamber to really be any fun, I'd think.

And I agree with the secret itself as a whole. There's lots of things people like that I personally don't get the appeal of. But unless they're somehow, some way, forcing me to watch/read/listen to it, I don't really see why I should get all bent out of shape about them liking it.

Same. I do understand that sometimes it's cathartic to get those feelings out, so if you see a lot of praise or constant squeeing about something you dislike you might get a bit of...well, release by saying, “I don't like this thing,” but that's about as far as I get taking it. One conversation, fine, but going back to it again and again seems like a waste of time. (Time, that, yes, you could spend on pursuits that you do enjoy.)

I follow a blog called Slacktivist which has been slowly reviewing the Left Behind series. It's kind of an anti-community, but the bloggers justification is that he's trying to point out bad writing and bad theology. It's actually a great community.

This is true. Source: was anti, became convert.

The books still aren't my thing, but I mean... people are allowed to have interests I don't. And I don't think they're the worst.

I agree. The Twilight books obviously have a lot of issues in them and definitely don't portray a romance that one should aspire to have, but they're still good, trashy fun in my opinion and I feel sorry for the poor fans who get endlessly harassed for enjoying the series. And honestly, they're not even that bad as far as Young Adult books go. I've seen far, far more "problematic" ones out there, but I guess Twilight is an easy target since it's so popular

Yeah, I only read the first book and saw the movies, thanks to a friend, but even just based off that, I can totally see why they would appeal to people. I'm pretty sure if that series had come out when I was 13, 14 years old, I'd have been all over it myself at some point.

And with the "bad influence" argument I see critics put forth, I like to think most readers are smart enough to tell the difference between reality and fiction. Women getting into bad relationships would happen with or without the existence of 'Twilight' (or '50 Shades', or books of that sort), and blaming books for that serious, deep-seated problem, as well as the problem of readers who CAN'T tell the difference between fiction and reality, always feels awfully simplistic a solution/answer to me.

As a former Twihater: Yep. It was pretty bad. There were people who were mad that Twilight wasn't more like Dracula. That's like complaining that Sweet Valley High doesn't live up to The Catcher in the Rye. Twilight is Sweet Valley High with vampires, not Dracula, or even Harry Potter or Buffy.

I mean, I remember just assuming anyone I liked who seemed halfway intelligent hated Twilight, which led to a lot of cringe.

I should elaborate to mention that I'm not saying either HP or Buffy are as good as Dracula, but rather, they really deal with good versus evil and all that stuff. Twilight is just a teenage love story.

My favorite is the people who complain that it's not more like Dracula while being completely wrong on the details of Dracula.

I know, right?

It's the same with werewolves. SMeyer actually uses the traditional mythology for both - it's that we're used to vampires burning up in the sun and werewolves being cursed, as opposed to just being Shifters who've chosen the wolf form. (I'll grant you, I prefer it being a curse, but SMeyer didn't invent the other kind.)

Yep. Who even goes "Hey, I hate this, let me go to my forum dedicated to it and talk with my friends."

I will admit to liking the movies though.

A lot of people on the internet it seems. At least in my experience. I'm not even surprised anymore when anti communities start. Some people are just drunk on the feeling of hating something.

Not a Twilight or 5SOG fan, and even I am annoyed by the antis. Perfect example of women being horrible to other women for what they feel is a good reason.

In my experience, most of the antis are dudes. When Twilight was getting really popular, pretty much every big male youtube star were the first ones to cash in on shitting on it and making fun of all of its teenage fangirls.

LMAO

Yeah, sure, OK.

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Oh please, don't kid yourself. The vast majority of HateTwi I've seen on the internet has been from 20-something dudebros. I'll never forget the dudebro blogger proclaiming that any woman who liked Twilight should be "punched in the vagina."

Like, really allow the misogyny of that statement to sink in. "Punched in the vagina." Just let that sink in.

There is an insane amount of hatred toward female-directed media from dudes like this. I remember reading a review of one of the Sex and the City movies that ('jokingly") advocated burning Sarah Jessica Parker alive. This was a mainstream review (not a blogger), BTW.

This is why the general topic couldn't stop trending quickly enough for me.

I'm not a fan of the books or movies but I agree with this tbh.

There's plenty of things I don't like or care for, but I can't be bothered to go into fan spaces and tell them they suck for liking it, they're allowed to like it even if I don't.

I agree. I'm not a Twilight fan at all but I had friends who loved the series, but I never thought less of them for liking it.

A lot of people assumed that I was a Twilight fan and I felt like I had to overexplain why I didn't like it, and I recall at first feeling relieved that other people didn't like it either so we had a bit of fun making fun of the things we didn't enjoy (I read the first book but that was it). But when I saw anti-groups that really were into really trashing the Twilight fans, I felt like it grew into something else and I couldn't get on board with that.

Eventually it was easy to stay away from the Twilight series once people stopped asking me if I was a fan.

I think as long as they keep the mocking to how bad the story and characters are, and don't let it seep into bashing the author or fans, and don't make a point of chasing down fans/fan communities and trashing what they love to their face, then I have no problem with anti-communities.

There's having fun bashing stuff, and then there's being a complete shit.

I don't like them because they're badly written and Myers's weird squeaky clean Mormon view of abuse and sex is a turn off and super creepy.
I wouldn't openly make fun of any of the fans though, I just assume they'll one day grow out of it and move on.

Most of the antis frankly, only hate it because it's aimed at teenage girls. A lot of people don't want to admit it, but that's exactly what it is.

Most of the antis frankly, only hate it because it's aimed at teenage girls. A lot of people don't want to admit it, but that's exactly what it is.

I'm inclined to agree with this, yeah.

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