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⌈ Secret Post #3472 ⌋

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Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Mine is the Ms.Scribe clusterfuck.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[dani_phantasma]

Sometimes I like reading through the DP Truefan/Antifan war. It's kinda funny when you're not smack in the middle of it.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Oh ho ho this isn't one I know. *to google later*

A bit of context

[dani_phantasma]

It's not as well known because Danny Phantom is fairly obscure. But the basic context is, back in the early days Butch Hartman had a forum for fans, but since it was open to kids he made rules about making the forum appropriate for kids. He made rules about what was an wasn't allowed on the forum.

Obviously understandable, he had a kids' show and wanted to keep things friendly for kids. He was also a Christian so he wasn't that fond of slash. (and it didn't help that the big slash pairing in fandom was Vlad(a 40 year old) and Danny (a 14 year old).

He put a bunch of bnfs in fandom in charge as mods. They were the heads of the "truefan movement" a bunch of people dedicated to seeing that Butch's standards were respected in fandom. Only they applied the rules on the forum to the entire internet. They became the family friendly crusaders and started a crusade of fandom policing.

People who drew r34 for DP were the enemies. They were the first "anti-fans"- people who disobeyed the great Hartman and made fandom unfriendly for kids. The mods spread a rumor on the board that one r34 artist who drew incredibly show accurate art was a child molester who had been convicted and then they started a blacklist of everyone who watched him on dA

Then after that they went for slash fans, and people who paired Danny with OCs, and anybody who wrote things that weren't family friendly and safe. Some made glorified propaganda pics that treated Danny as if he were a real person being violated by the anti-fans. They prevailing belief was that the "antifans" weren't real fans because if they were they would follow Butch Hartman's standards and write pure G-rated family friendly art.

It went on for ages and I drifted out of fandom til it mostly calmed down. I don't doubt that they're still out there. Naturally the big fanwar of '04-05 did bupkis to stop non-PG rated art and fics. In fact the fandom that's still around loves grimdark angst. Like at one point we had a fan holiday month DEDICATED to writing angst. and to be fair the show itself lends itself constantly to dark and angst. Even from the very premise , as it's a popular interpretation/implication that Danny is essentially half dead.

As far as the family friendly policing went, a friend of mine says they got a mod warning on the forum, for having a ghost adult villain make a metaphor to wine sniffing.

This is why you don't hire your BNFs to police fandom for you.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

That was epic. I don't think anything can ever top it.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man. All the Mark Watches/Reads drama. It's not nearly as entertaining now that all the dissenting opinions have been shunned/banned and the hivemind prevails.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Oh my GOD I was there from the start for that, back when it was all just......chiller. I just love seeing people consume media I love for the first time, so I liked it, but man oh man did it get Dramatique. I peaced before the drama got insane but watched from a distance in awe.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Ms Scribe and Andy Blake tie for me.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Jesus Christ same. Andy Blake is next-level toxic but there's also just so much shit that he managed to get involved in, and back when internet fandom was really a new thing and much smaller. Yeeeeesh. I missed the LOTR drama, mostly bc I was young and my family had dial-up until like 2004 or 05, but I have a good friend who is 10 years my senior who used to tell me HORROR stories of just. So much drama.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[shortysc22]

Ms. Scribe, Andy Blake and Cassandre Clare are mine.

Especially the whole creation of fictionalley.org because Cassie Clare got kicked off ff.net for plagiarizing.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

One of my ninth graders--the SWEETEST, smartest, most lovely girl too!--was reading a Cassie Clare book for her independent reading last semester. It was so weird--I was like she has NO IDEA

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[shortysc22]

I think we talked about this back then. Most people have no idea. One of my best friends and her cousin were super in to the Mortal Instruments books and I refuse to read them.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I can beat a lot of people currently paying attention - not that it's a competition, hell no - because I was actually on ff.n when CC got blacklisted. Like, part of the discussion on the old ff.n forums (when it first happened) and everything. It's even how I made some of my fandom friends.


... then I feel depressed because I realize everyone else got a life between 2001 and 2016. ;)

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I always like fictionalley and had no clue it had anything to do with CC.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[shortysc22]

Fandom wank used to have the whole timeline and I think it might even be slightly tied in to the Ms. Scribe saga.

Heidi and Cassie Clare were part of a super tight knit clique of mean girls.

I liked fictionalley before I found out about their history and also how nonsensical they were about accepting fics. I had fic rejected and they only suggested to get a beta reader, but if you don't have lots of fandom friends, it's hard to find a reliable beta reader. I even found one, but fictionalley still would reject the story without giving me specific points.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sarillia]

I like whenever authors air their Opinions on Fanfiction. The one I remember most fondly is the mess with Diana Gabaldon because I was there for the whole thing instead of reading about it after the fact.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Ooooh man...who's that lady who wrote a bunch of crazy fantasy involving dragons and dudes and thinks being penetrated anally turns a guy gay?

........in my head these are connected but good god I could be very far off the mark and if so I sincerely apologize

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

LEE GOLDBERG. My God, that man is such a raging pile of douchecanoes. "My fanfiction is different because I have permission." Still fanfic, dude, unbunch your panties and let people have their fun.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[lady_dragoon]

Crystalwank. It was the kind of harmless, guilt-free hilarity (because nobody got hurt, unlike in FF7 House or Victoria Bitter) that we just don't see take over the internet anymore.

OUR HEDS ARE PASTEDE ON YAY

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[sparrow_lately]

Crystalwank sounds so familiar but I can't think why...

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

I still use that phrase whenever I see a bad Photoshop job. I love it.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Oh man I cannot remember the name of it now, but there was one where some fandom friend was in trouble and moved in with someone else, and they ended up being a hoarder and incredibly disgusting and a nightmarish situation, and the ended up in the hospital and died and this person they had moved in with was sorta stuck with dealing with all the crazy stuff related to that. I vividly remember them describing how they went to clean off this woman's bed and that she apparently had been shitting the bed and then putting another sheet on top of it and repeating for ages. About made me sick, but I couldn't stop reading.

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Holy shit I remember this too?? There was an lj post with pics I think? Like there were giant soda bottles of pee and a huge skidmark on the couch and bags of laundry full of crusted diarrhea... I felt sorry for that poor woman, but oh my god the things those poor people had to put up with/clean up afterwards.

I can't remember her name though. I want to say it began with Sh? She just sort of moved in and mooched off these people and refused to leave?

Re: Favorite vintage internet/fandom drama

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my God. I was thinking about that whole drama today!