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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-09-07 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3535 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3535 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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kallanda_lee: (Default)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-07 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure some people will criticize this secret, but I think it's sweet.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, of course. While it's a sweet sentiment, not everybody needs to get a gold star just for participating. I don't care how hard a person worked, if what they wrote is crap, it's crap. If they want constructive criticism that's a different story. Then I can see saying, I liked this part of it, but here's what you can fix. Otherwise, nope.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
fanfic isnt about constructive criticism go away

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Found the person who doesn't use a beta reader.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but most "constructive criticism" given on the internet is really just the "critic" whining about the writer not conforming to their own personal stylistic preferences.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not constructive criticism. If that's the kind of feedback a beta gave you, they're not very good at their job.
diet_poison: (Default)

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they're talking about commenters not betas
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-07 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Found the person who acts like fanfic is a paid service.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a generic "Good job with this fic." isn't going to destroy anything. You act like fanfiction is srs bizness.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If you enjoy wading through heaps and heaps of crap that have nice reviews, have fun!
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[personal profile] vethica 2016-09-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you saying you read the comments first and then, based on them, decide whether you want to read the fic? I don't think that's how most people do it.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
What can I say? When I read a fic I want it to be good. Apparently having standards is a crime around here.
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[personal profile] vethica 2016-09-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not accusing you of anything.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
But are the comments the gauge by which you decide if you will read a fic? I have never heard of this. Aren't you afraid of spoilers?
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[personal profile] iwasanartist 2016-09-07 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The AYRT isn't being very nice, but yeah. Sometimes I'll read comments first if I've been striking out on finding good things. I just read slowly enough that I can back away if it seems like something's going to be spoilery. And besides, it's not like the quality of comments or the quantity for that matter is all that high these days.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-09-08 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
That's fair.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2016-09-08 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Comments can't really tell you whether a fic is good, though? If a fic hits a fandom's collective id the right way, it's gonna be adored, regardless whether it's well-written.

Also, I mean...it's fic. It's mostly going to be bad. Most published fiction is bad, and that stuff has to go through editors and boards and whatnot. At the end of the day, we're accessing works that were written for free and for the pure sake of it by people who are, by and large, not professionals, and while there are those who want to get better, there are also those who are just looking to have fun. Expectations ought to be set accordingly.

It just ain't serious business, in any case.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-08 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes, though, the comments can tell you whether a fic is hitting a fandom's collective id--or at least, the collective id of some of the fandom. Sometimes the kind of praise a fic is receiving is enough to warn you away.
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[personal profile] a_potato 2016-09-08 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, that's a good point! There are some fics where, if you see enough of a certain type of positive comment, you can make a pretty good assumption of what it's gonna be like.

I feel like that's a really uneven rubric to go by, though. I've come across some really horribly written fics that have, for whatever reason, inspired amazing meta-analysis in the comments.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-09-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you read the comments on a fic to determine whether or not to read it? Huh. I go by kudos count if I am going into a new fic. But often great fics have very few reviews and terrible fics can have great reviews.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Comments aren't the best way to figure out what is good because most people who comment will have gotten through the whole thing and liked it - all the people who backspaced in the beginning don't.
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[personal profile] world_eater 2016-09-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
how dare people inconvenience you by being nice to others.

you sound like a right prick
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-09-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But people on here still tend to assume all writers want "constructive criticism". I'm not opposed to it, as I actually care about things like how my writing style comes across - but a lot of fanfic writers are just excited to write something about a pairing they love, for example, and want to share it with the world.

I see nothing wrong with encouraging enthusiasm.

(Anonymous) 2016-09-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Fanfic is a hobby for most people. Its free to read too.