[ SECRET POST #3547 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3547 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 32 secrets from Secret Submission Post #507.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think that even though you like the author, you acknowledged they are problematic shows self-awareness. I'm pretty sure what you enjoy from their books is the unproblematic parts or perhaps at the time you weren't aware the author was problematic.

Some people can separate author from their works and some can't. It just comes to personal preference on the matter.

A lot of things society consumes is problematic, So I think it's good that these issues are addressed since these issues should be reduced. Although I oppose the idea that enjoying something that contains problematic content or problematic creators makes you 'evil' or whatever, personally I wouldn't support them.

[(Anonymous)]

It's almost like media being problematic is directly proportional to media being entertaining or something....

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I find the unproblematic parts of the media I consume the most entertaining. When I mean problematic, I mean when scenes have sexist, racist or homophobic undertones.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't stop there. Surely there's more on that list.

[(Anonymous)]

do you really believe that's true

please expand on this novel idea

[(Anonymous)]

Here's a handy Wikipedia link that explains the relationship better than I could:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_(narrative)

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you think that conflict has to involve something that would be considered problematic

I'm really, sincerely curious about what you mean

[(Anonymous)]

the secret is about their fandom friends being social justice orientated. not sure how conflict is considered a social justice topic

[(Anonymous)]

Because from what I can tell, what social justice types are pushing for is a media utopia with zero conflict?

[arcadiaego]

We're talking about the views behind the content, not the story in the content itself.

[(Anonymous)]

What? It totally doesn't have to be problematic to be entertaining. There are plenty of shows with minor issues (if they have issues at all) that are very entertaining. And there are plenty of shows that are problematic and are horrendous. I have no idea where you are getting that supposed correlation from.

[(Anonymous)]

Are sex and violence problematic?

'Cuz I find both of those really damn entertaining. Especially if they're combined.

[(Anonymous)]

Name a single truly entertaining non-problematic show.

[(Anonymous)]

Brooklyn Nine-Nine

[(Anonymous)]

Ah because having one gay black authority figure cancels out all the sexism, ageism, ableism, and jokes about eating disorders on display? Try again.

[(Anonymous)]

My cat from hell maybe?

[(Anonymous)]

As someone that enjoys quite a bit of "problematic" entertainment, this is a really weird and inaccurate correlation to draw... like, what, do you think something can't be funny unless it's offensive to someone?

[(Anonymous)]

Of course it can.

I think entertainment, for many people, depends on a pushing of boundaries that we wouldn't push in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's a generalization you're making based on your own tastes, which is an easy trap to fall into. Entertainment depends on a million different variables to every single person, and I would hesitate to say one thing applies to most, or even "many." Like, some people find fart jokes hilarious. Some people don't. There's also a million shades of grey in there too, between "finds funny" and "does not find funny."

Of course some people find boundary-pushing entertaining (we can look at the success of shows like Family Guy and South Park to prove that), but saying that for many, entertainment depends on it...that's a stretch I can't quite subscribe to.

[(Anonymous)]

So why are sex and violence so integral to entertainment?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

then why the hell are coffeeshop AUs so freaking popular?

[(Anonymous)]

I think it is because the authors of them don't stop to consider the supply chain and ignore the problems and abuses inherent in both the coffee trade and retail industry. Whatever else they are, coffeeshop AUs are still problematic as hell.

[(Anonymous)]

A common argument I've heard is that comedy/entertainment that relies on "punching down" is lazy humor, and real effort requires coming up with comedy that isn't offensive or relies on stereotypes for laughs.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything is offensive to someone.

[(Anonymous)]

Er, not really? Problematic media can be entertaining, but it's not necessarily the problematic nature of said media that's entertaining. Unless, of course, a person is one of those "anti-PC" blowhards who thinks that only insults and "edgy" humor can be enjoyable.