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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-10-13 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3571 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably because 90% of the time whenever there is a terrorist attack it is committed by Muslims.


(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Over what time frame, and where

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't most public shootings committed by whiny white dudes tho lol.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm referring to incidents such as bombings or attacks carried out for ideological reasons.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
backpeddling

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really.

When the Paris attacks occurred did anyone think "This is probably some pissed off white guy from Reddit"?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
whatever troll

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(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Saying it's usually Muslims is not an attack on all or even most Muslims. That said, if you don't count Daesh and other groups as true Muslims, then I agree with you. They use Islam as a cover for poisoning the minds of youth to commit acts of nihilism.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-10-13 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
IRA was ideological. The Unabomber was ideological. Breivik was ideological. As the other anon said: over what time frame and where is totally relevant.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You want to look at the number of Muslim terrorist groups in the world today versus any other ideology?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're saying that at present radical Islamists are most oriented towards terrorism at present, then say that. Don't talk like it's some kind of eternal truth that has always been that way.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
within america's borders there are WAY more white supremacist terrorist groups according to the southern poverty law center reports, so uhhhh

again, when and where etc

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(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Take a look over the past decade.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's certainly not exclusive to Muslims - see the Oklahoma City bombing or the attempted bombing of the Atlanta Olympics. Off the top of my head.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Not exclusive just the majority.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is there's not an intrinsic connection between Islam and terrorism.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's debatable. Jesus was a hippy that was crucified. Buddha sat under a tree. Muhammad was a warlord who spread his faith by the sword.

(Anonymous) 2016-10-13 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet all three religions have been involved in brutal religious violence. Yes, even Buddhism.

The specifics of religious doctrine have a deeply complex relationship with what actually happens in society and how people live their lives. You can't reduce it to that level.

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(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because in Ireland during the height of their 'troubles', the terrorists, on both sides, were Muslims.
Because every single shooting rampage in the USA- which I would fit into the category of 'terrorist attack' (isn't the point of a 'terrorist attack' to cause terror?) is not a white guy but a Muslim.
Because the USA, going into Southern America and bombing countries, violently ousting democratically elected leaders etc (which I would say fits the definition of 'terror attack'.) that's somehow to do with Muslims.
Did you know that in WW2 America firebombed Japan? Robert Mcnamara has admitted to his guilt over the thousands of people who died, not soldiers, civilians. I would argue, even though it was during war, that was a terrorist attack (just as the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbour was a terrorist attack).
Hey, neither of these were 'Muslims'.
Because Timothy Mcveigh was Muslim.
Because the scientist, who killed people using anthrax, after September 11, was so clearly Muslim.
The list goes on...

(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
The list goes on but I could double that list with just what ISIS has been doing over the past couple of years.

And you are aware the deadliest shooting rampage in the US was a Muslim who pledged allegiance to ISIS right?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
And you are aware the deadliest shooting rampage in the US was a Muslim who pledged allegiance to ISIS right?

What exactly do you think this proves

(Anonymous) 2016-10-17 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
You know what? I fucking dare you to tally every single atrocity Daesh has committed against every death and piece of destruction the US caused in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Go on. I dare you.

If that's not enough, I fucking dare you to tally every single death and horror caused by Daesh, Al-Qaeda, and Hamas COMBINED, vs. the Holocaust.

Want another? Let's try Daesh vs. Manifest Destiny.

Shall I keep going?

(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not to take away from what you're saying, but I do agree with you, but terrorism is actually defined as using violence and intimidation for political reasons. So basically while, for example, the Columbine shooters and the Oklahoma City bomber both committed acts of terror, only the Oklahoma City bomber did it for political reasons, thus only he would be considered a terrorist.

Sorry again not to derail or anything (because as I said I agree with you), just was more replying to your "isn't the point of a terrorist act to cause terror?".

(Anonymous) 2016-10-17 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, just like the Murrah Building in OKC.

Oh, wait.