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-Nuclear energy is a great way to curb reliance on fossil fuels
-Nuclear deterrents prevented WW3 and continue to be of benefit to peace to this day
-GMOs should be widely embraced
-English should just get rid of gendered pronouns altogether
-Not licenses or qualifications, because that's unethical and open to abuse, but their should be mandatory training one goes through before they can become a parent. It is fucking ridiculous how many requirements there are for adoptive parents before they are considered acceptable for an adopted child; we as a society are basically saying: you must be this (wealthy, stable, mentally fit) to raise a child, provided it was someone else's. But children born biologically can suck shit and rot in a foster home because their parents have a ~~~~right~~~~ to them and we prioritize the parent's wants over children's needs... so long as the child was the result of their own sexual fluids, that is. That is straight fucked. Cognitive dissonance on a level beyond belief.

English should just get rid of gendered pronouns altogether

Wouldn't that just contribute to transgender people getting misgendered? Degendering is a genuine problem, especially (but not always) for trans women, who are treated as "not women".

Calling a woman the singular "they" doesn't make them not a woman if you call everyone "them" though. People already do it sometimes.

Eh, maybe?

That being said, pronouns are pretty important; why else would misgendering someone be a problem?

I'd argue that having a wide-spread, non-gendered pronoun become mainstream would be better then just abolishing gendered pronouns all together.

I think ariakas was implying the wide spread mainstream non-gender pronoun would replace the gendered pronouns, thereby abolishing them.

I just don't see it happening.

I mean, right now, people who use one pronoun will sometimes realize that pronoun doesn't fit, and look for something that fits better; I don't see that changing. What if someone doesn't feel like a "they". The pronouns won't completely vanish, unless we get collective amnesia, so someone might stumble on "she" and think "shit, that's me."

Haha well, I don't see it happening either but the thread wasn't about practical reforms with a 5-year plan for implementation with majority consensus or none of the responses would apply.

Yeah but then you can still have shitheads elect to use the wrong one on people they don't feel perform the one they prefer effectively enough.

And other, non-shitheads might still feel insulted or degraded or reminded they aren't "good enough" to pass if people use the non-gendered one on them to start.

You can't misgender someone with pronouns if everyone uses the same pronouns, though?

I just don't see it happening unless we as a society get collective amnesia, and forget about gendered pronouns. Elsewise, someone will probably find she/her, he/him, and think "hey, this feels like me."

I mean, that's what already happens nowadays.

But why would they do that? "S/he" is just a word. It means what society imparts upon it.

"She" in a vacuum means fuck all. What your society decides a "woman" is what gets shoehorned through the collective unconscious onto that term.

If someone "found" a gendered pronoun but didn't have the gendered tropes attached to it, in their mind, it wouldn't feel like anything at all. On it's own it's an aspirated consonant and a vowel.

It sounds like you're also thinking that gender should be abolished?

Otherwise, someone who identifies as woman/wants to, might read "she" as a pronoun for "women" and identify with it. It's exactly what happens nowadays with transgender people, who see something/feel like they identify with something.

Taking away the pronouns won't do anything unless gender is abolished.

It'd make life easier. You wouldn't have to fuss about pronouns when first encountering someone. And there are languages that don't have them - some of which, I might add, belong to cultures with extremely high level of gender equality. There are scads of studies that demonstrate that words do affect the way we think, right down to our ability to recognize differences in shades.

So "won't do anything" is obviously false - I think you mean "won't complete eliminate the problem"? Which, well, no. People are shitheads. We love to use our differences as a way to make ourselves feel superior to others.

It's either no gendered pronouns or we go full Tumblr and create a pronoun for people who don't give a fuck and want to opt out of the entire shitshow that is sex-linked gender performance. People could opt in if it felt important to them and others could just be male/female/intersex attack helicopters.

Where can I sign up for attack helicopter gender? Sounds rad, man.

#1 : I mostly agree, however there are issues on nuclear plants being unsafe because too old & or not able to withstand an earthquake and that's definitely a problem.
#3 : GMOs are theorically great, but we need to get rid of Monsanto and co before it can become a thing

I agree about parenthood, and I think it should be taught in schools. Bring back home ec.

(That being said... I'd rather there were fewer children in the world. I'm not just pro-choice, I'm pro-abortion, and I'm all for women using their right to their own body much more freely. On a long enough timeline it'd solve the adoption problem.)

Edited 2016-10-30 21:29 (UTC)

Oh it already is solving the adoption problem is just about the entire industrialized world. Many countries that used to adopt out tens of thousands of unwanted children per year have closed their borders because there are more parents who want to adopt domestically than there are available children. Prospective adoptive parents have huge waiting lists, even if they're willing to adopt an older/less than healthy child.

The real problem is that there are so many kids suffering in foster homes now, and that is the result - at least where I live - of kids not being allowed to be permanently adopted out on the off chance their deadbeat parents get their acts back together. Because nothing's more important than biology, even if you lost the kids in the first place because you starved and beat them in your crack shack!

Point no.1 is actually a really dumb opinion!

"English should just get rid of gendered pronouns altogether"
I disagree. If we got rid of any specific descriptive word just because a small minority of people didn't fit into it, we wouldn't have a lot of words left.

Preach the parenting opinion, oh my fucking god.

How casual it is to just decide "I'm gonna have a child :)", probably after seeing a pair of cute shoes for a 3 month old, is baffling. And dangerous, imo. There is seemingly no thought into the decision. It's just widely accepted as a part of life, a thing to do.

I think nuclear energy has a lot of promise, but it's clear that we need something a lot better than Cold War designs to make it safe.

Unless anyone invents a way to magically clean up nuclear waste, the only promise nuclear energy has is a promise of a slow and painful death.

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