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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-03 03:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3622 ]


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[personal profile] fscom 2016-12-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Official advertise your fandom-related event thread.

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2. ONE POST PER USER under this thread.
3. What IS allowed: roleplay advertisements, fandom comms, fandom events, things like that.
4. What is NOT allowed: anything for profit, any kind of fic/art commissions, seeking 1-on-1 RP, that kind of thing.

[personal profile] fscom 2016-12-03 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Official clickables thread.

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3. If you're going to post, try to at least help the others.

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General comments:

(If the thread contains spoilery/triggery content please post as 2nd comment so it collapses!)

Political question.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are so many conservatives so anti-environmental? It seems like political conservatism goes hand-in-hand with being an anti-environmentalist. Even when the science is completely undisputed, eg leadshot for game and fishing, and completely settled, conservatives will try and fight against the environmental option. Even when it is more costly to take the anti-environmental path, even when it causes problems for them personally, they still refuse to do anything that might help the natural world? I just do not understand it. I really do not. Does anyone on F!S have thoughts?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Fossil fuels.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Koch brothers, money, billion dollar fossil fuel industry, propaganda?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-12-03 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Because Conservative politicians have tied to big business including big oil. Because ordinary conservatives buy into the lies that are spread by conservative politicians about the environment and about scientists. Probably a lot of other reasons, but those are the two big ones.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Even when it is more costly to take the anti-environmental path"

I think there's an ingrained perception that green is always more expensive -- which historically it often was. Some people just don't want to hear that technologies have improved and processes have become more efficient and thus more cost effective. Even when you point out that upgrading to eco-friendly processes can be a tax writeoff if it imvolves a capital expense ( which it often does) they STILL don't want to adjust their thinking.

I also think it's a knee-jerk "circle the wagons!" mentality against every plank. "Yeah, once you start agreeing with the tree-huggers, next thing you know you'll be agreeing to let wimmin in th' army and hamasexuls get married and molest kids, and have to burn all the Dixie flags!"

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The Venn diagram of "Conservatism" means that different kinds of conservatives oppose environmentalism for different reason.

For instance, the libertarians oppose national parks because they don't think the government should own property, the big business conservatives oppose environmental regulations because it would cut into profits, the evangelicals think that taking care of the Earth is a waste because Jesus is coming back Real Soon Now, and the anti-intellectuals automatically assume that if there is a scientific consensus, it's really just a Liberal Plot to Destroy America (TM).

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Despite being so obnoxiously pro-family they're very happy to push off silving problems to the next generation (or the next generation's kids) if it means that their profits NOW might be affected.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK about the non-Evangelical ones, but a lot of Evangelical Christians think that the Earth's resources exist to be used to the maximum by humans, because otherwise why would God have put them there? And also they don't think it's a big deal if we deplete these resources, because by the time that happens the apocalypse will have started and everyone will have left Earth and gone to either heaven or hell, so it doesn't matter anyway.

It's not logical, but religious fundamentalism rarely is.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2016-12-03 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
My opinion of politics at the moment is that it's fueled by resentment and packed full of mis-truth and stereotyping.

Some right wingers my hold ideas that are typically seen as "Anti-Environment", although I doubt they actually are anti-environment. Like they're filling up the gas guzzler and being all "FUCK YOU MOTHER EARTH" Probably just not worrying about the things the hard core environmentalists care about. I doubt there's much spite in their environmental choices. Ignorance at worst.

But that's what goes for the people who do hold typically "anti-environmental" opinions. I'm inclined to believe that there is this stereotype of the "average conservative" that is, well, white rich, misogynistic, racist, anti environmental, anti vegans, anti... Well, you know, George and Lucile Bluth basically. and people believe that stereotype, and when they see a conservative who is like that they go "See, All these rich pieces of shit I hate them so much" and they spread it and the stereotype goes on. And people buy into this so much when they see someone not like that you get the "Oh, they're not really conservative" or "Oh, they're only pretending to care, it's for their image" or "None of that matters they still believe *horrible shit you believe they must believe*"

Or they see someone say "Fuck the earth, Global warming isn't a myth but fuck it, let's fuck this planet up anyway" and they assume they must be a conservative.

Then there's the people who seem to genuinely not want to listen when it comes to environmental issues. and I do think that more often than not they are of the conservative type, I may just be being bais there, but I do think that comes more as a backlash to perceiving them being lectured to by people just trying to score points off them.

I know the contrary thrill of responding to being told "If you don't believe this like I do, you're scum!" with "I don't believe that. Fuck you, do your worst". It's a fucking thrill. As a reaction it's not the most enlightened call but I think that in politics right now the urge to go "Fuck you, I don't have to think like you" to your opponent is winning out over rationality and discussion. but I do not think it is limited to the right.

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looking for recs for rarepairs or obscure fandoms

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Post your rarepairs or obscure fandoms here, see if someone can help you out with finding fic and stuff.

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Do you ever dream in text?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Or in anything besides normal reality like a video game UI or 2D comic book panels?

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Those little Christmas headpieces and hats which have a bit of fake mistletoe dangling from them; sexist microaggression or not?

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Vidya Games

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The Last of Us II finally has an official announcement! Uncharted 4 story DLC! I still don't understand what's going on with Death Stranding!

Talk about these or any other video game related topics.

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TEH WOR ON CHRUSMUS

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man I can't wait for the local radio pundits to start whining about people saying happy holidays, it's gonna be fucking hilarious. I love it when Christians get butthurt about non-Christians not celebrating Christmas. Funniest thing ever.

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The trolls are out in force tonight

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I tried. Submitted a secret for the first time in months, totally innocuous stuff. Took minutes for the comments to derail :\

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Important Question

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Is Sense8 actually good

People on my Twitter feed LOVE it - to a really intense degree - but I watched the first couple episodes and it seemed bad. In particular, the dialogue and characterization seemed almost embarrassingly bad.

Opinions?

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I wrote a blog post about why I fucking hate video games...

[personal profile] thewakokid 2016-12-03 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
...because this is what it does, it like appeals to the male fantasy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz6jnMBkgN4

Has anyone ever forgotten your birthday?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it's mine today and my family has forgotten :(

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New GOTG Trailer

(Anonymous) 2016-12-03 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Bless it.

https://youtu.be/sMTntxvok1M

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Would you fuck a chicken to save the world?

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Games thread!

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
ooh is it the ship where the antis are saying that since one half of the ship killed a bunch of people the shippers are also prone to fetishizing real serial killers? cause that shit is invading my otherwise peaceful fandom right now and their ship tag is all but abandoned except for the anti posts.

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