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I really don't think that is the norm. How many fandoms does it happen in with frequency? The only one I can think of is Voltron. Meanwhile ship wars have been happening since shipping was a thing.

There were accusations of pedophilia in Teen Wolf fandom (how dare you ship Derek with Stiles or Scott), accusations of pedophilia in Sherlock (the TJLCers were accusing people who prefer bottom!John of being pedophiles because some BNF artists drew them looking younger than they actually are), Steven Universe is constantly getting shouted at about pedophilia, basically any kind of cartoon fandom is fucked.

Yes but other than Steven Universe how frequent are those accusations. The Sherlock one consisted of like 4 people. I'd hardly call that the norm.

Something similar happened in Sherlock (though I think that was accusing people of being rapists yeah?) and similar stuff goes on in Steven Universe, though I personally haven't seen any outright accusations of pedophilia, just kind of coded implication (ie you are trash if you draw porn cause this is a kids show so you are corrupting minors or w/e)

No, it was accusing other fans of being pedophiles for shipping Johnlock with Sherlock topping. (Supposedly because Sherlock/John shippers drew John as looking too young.)

I think there was a separate rapist incident I am thinking of.

I always assumed John was the older of the two?

Yeah, I think it was this artist specifically that got the majority of the negative attention:

(links go to a couple of the artist's pictures - no nudity, but potential pedophilia/hebephilia implied)

http://pm1.narvii.com/5859/385c5cec1768dafc5412d3b539048e7d608e0084_hq.jpg

http://pm1.narvii.com/5859/cee0e2e63b126bc9062a7666a1dd132949b00b0d_hq.jpg

They are/were a very popular and prolific artist within the fandom (and quite skilled too).

Personally, I've never enjoyed the dynamic that is portrayed between Sherlock and John in this artist's fanart. And that one piece that's some kind of Pokemon fusion is definitely very squicky to me, in a major way. That said, I always thought the way that small but vocal group of johnlockers went after the artist was messed up and wrong.

It's also worth noting that in retaliation against this small but vocal group of johnlockers, a small but vocal group of opposing johnlockers decided to spread the word that fawnlock (an AU popular among the former group) was actually pedophilic. They did this in an attempt to prove that the former group were all huge hypocrites. However, fawnlock was never about characterizing Sherlock as a child or an infant; in the majority of fawnlock he was characterized as fully grown - something which the opposing johnlockers probably knew, despite their claims otherwise.

TLDR: it was messy, and pedophilia accusations were a part of it, though it was only ever a small but vocal minority that were involved.

Voltron is what I thought of first, too, but I've seen it in some other fandoms as well. Yuri On Ice had people yelling pedophilia about shipping Yurio with Otabek, even though they're only two and a half years apart in age, because Otabek is 18 and Yurio isn't. And I've even seen some people trying to claim that Reylo is essentially pedophilia, so apparently there's a subset of people who think that any age gap at all is a bad thing. I don't think it's actually that many, but they're very loud.

Every fandom I'm in has it. Kylux is pedo, Reylo is pedo, um, I remember a ficcer getting run out of One Punch fandom because someone asked them to tag their Saitoma/Genos with motherfucking "child grooming" and when they said lolno they got attacked for not respecting people's triggers.
I'm pretty sure there was some My Little Pony "The characters don't have official ages that makes them all pedo unless proven otherwise" wank.

The Clone Wars all the clones are technically like 9 so all clone pairings are pedo.

I can't think of a single fandom without pedo being thrown around like fictional mardis gras beads

Yes, but how often is that the norm. As opposed to like 5 loud people?

Pretty common? I have filters set, but I see 4-5 posts filtered for some variation on pedo terms every day, and every time I've clicked to see if it's something like "Jaysus H Christ people Gandalf/Galadriel isn't pedo for fucks sake" it never is.

I've seen none on my dash. The only reason I know there is a bunch in Voltron is because people tell me.

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THIS^.

Thank you for being the voice of reason in this thread.

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In addition to those listed above: Attack on Titan, Star Wars, Ricky and Morty, Supernatural, Gravity Falls...it has become tiresomely normal to see on Tumblr.

Supernatural? I'd have to see that to believe it.

There used to be a lot of people who posted on FS to complain about underage content in the Supernatural kink meme. A typical example: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/917937.html?thread=701090993#cmt701090993

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Snk for one, 4-ish years ago, I was in there for quite a while. Ereri was a big "pedo" ship, as well as every other teen/adult ship (not that they were really given the time of day due to their lack of popularity). There were a few others like haikyuu, where the older shippers themselves got accused as pedophiles I think but I wasn't in there much and I don't know how far that extended beyond twitter drama lol. There have also been game fandoms where a coded adult with a coded teen was accused as a pedo ship and "that makes you a shitty person lol !"

I feel that pedophile-accusations within fandoms are based more on people who feel like they are not in control of their own lives (which i do admit, is usually the case for csa victims, but for others they may just be depressed and feel powerless), and will leap at the chance to belittle someone else/give them self a brownie point for saying "you're a pedophile" over a fictional ship to feel good about themselves, rather than actually disliking a ship and giving actual reasons for it. Not that I've shipped ereri but I haven't given people shit for it either. These kinds of ship wars tend to be based on more malicious accusations rather than "you have shit taste" which takes away the fun of having a good argument over two ships at all.

If it's not pedophilia accusations it will be something else that is just as "bad" or "problematic" or "disgusting" and people will jump on the bandwagon to feel good about themselves, even those who were never involved in any of it at all.

Basically, any anime fandom because I've noticed a pattern that's where a lot of powerless individuals are (who feel they lack control over their own lives or anyone) will jump at the chance to have some kind of power over someone else. Even if it's shipping in a vacuum that is tumblr (which for depressed people's tends to practically become their second home). I feel the more stable the users are on there, the more they are like "This isn't real, guys. It's fiction." And move onto thinking about actual issues in their real life and how they can solve them lol.

If it's not pedo accusations, it's accusations of racism for not shipping this, and misogyny for not shipping that, and ableism for not shipping this. I'm with OP, I definitely preferred "you're a stupid bitch who doesn't get canon if you ship my NOTP" to "you're a racist who hates black women if you ship my NOTP".

But OP specifically said pedophilia.

It happens reasonably frequently in fandoms I follow, but that might be because I actively seek out drama because it fuels me. If you don't follow people who are interested in drama then you may not notice it. ((But I certainly know I've been accused of being a pedohpile for reblogging art of an aged up character kissing someone and it was very wtf for me))

man it totally is the norm. you may think its just a few loud people in each fandom, but when you've got a bunch of people telling you they're experiencing it in multiple fandoms, you have to admit it's a phenomenon and not random isolated incidents. i hang with a lot of artists/writers who are in a lot of different fandoms respectively, and we all experience this in form or another.

This. If it isn't pedo accusations, it'll be some other accusation that makes the shippers of the wrong pairings out to be Bad People. It'll be racism or misogyny or promoting abusive relationships, whatever the bullies think will work to keep other fans in line.

The notion that what people ship or don't ship says things about their personal moral character has become a very pervasive one.

In Overwatch fandom you get accusations of pedophilia for shipping grown-ass adults.

Roadhog (48) and Junkrat (25) have gotten it. Reaper (50+) and Mcree shippers (38) have gotten it. Anyone who ships DVA (19) gets it.

It's really bizarre because you get people crying about child porn and pedophilia about characters who are in their fucking 30s.

Don't forget Pharah (32) and Mercy (37)!

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