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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-26 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3607 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3707 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pokemon]


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[Draco Malfoy from Harry Potter]


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[Sherlock]


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[Titanic]


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[Underworld: Blood Wars]


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Writing Help Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Selfishly posting, because I need some help. Maybe you do too?

Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
So I've noticed that some users here are gamers, and maybe you could help me out, pretty please.

I'm writing this thing and I need a computer/console/video game that a contemporary teenager - aged 18 from the UK, if that matters - would regularly play both alone and with his friends for several hours at a time. It should be a violent and dark game, but still popular and mainstream enough that it's a sort of household name. I mean, something his mother would recognise as a game her son plays, if it's mentioned in unrelated conversations. And it should not be a fantasy game, meaning people shooting/killing each other, aliens, zombies or mutants is fine, but nothing with wizards/elves/orcs/dragons etc.

I did some research and came across Call of Duty, Halo, Silent Hill, Dead Space and BioShock. Would one of those be plausible for the age group I mentioned?

My gaming cred doesn't go beyond Candy Crush and its clones, so I don't know :(

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if I'd call any of those "dark." The unfortunate thing about any online multiplayer is anything and everything immediately becomes non grimdark by way of being full of 13 year olds screaming they ttly fucked ur mom, who btw is fat and also ur a fag omg hax, and everybody too busy trying to kill each other to care about the theme of the game itself so the violence ends up cartoonish at max, even for realistic games.

Does it need to be dark?

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, not necessarily, I mean Call of Duty is pretty much like playing war if war was an action movie, isn't it? But I still got the impression that it's pretty grim and violent and not like a a fun colourful adventure game, where you'd shoot at cutesy mushrooms or turtles, right?

I just want it to fit the character, who is a hostile loner type with people he hangs out with, but no 'real' friends he trusts. So I think a darkish, violent game would be good to keep up the tough guy posturing in company.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Call of Duty would be plausible, those are always coming out. Halo might be good too, though idk if that one is less popular than it used to be? BioShock is a bit of a shorter, story based game with no multiplayer so idk if that would be okay. I don't know about the other two.

Also maybe look into Resident Evil?

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I thought BioShock was longer and with multiplayer option, so I can take that off the list. Thanks!

I'll take a look at Resident Evil.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-02-26 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Halo is definitely less popular than it used to be. The CoD juggernaut's completely unseated Halo from the throne. It doesn't help that Halo is XBox exclusive, and that it's not an annual franchise. Plus 343 Studios has altered the multi formula a little and that's pissed a lot of people off.

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2017-02-26 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Left 4 Dead 2. Older game but still played a lot. Can be played multi or single. Should be pretty recognizable for a lot of people.

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll check out Left 4 Dead 2. Thank you!

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-02-26 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Your proscription against fantasy excludes one of the darkest series of all -- Dark Souls, which has a pretty healthy multiplayer component integrated fully into the game.

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh? I pretty much just excluded fantasy games, because I thought they'd be too friendly. You know, too much role playing as a mighty orc princess and not enough violence.

I'll have a look at that Dark Souls business. Thanks!

Re: Question about computer/console/video games

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't want it to be fantasy based though, which I would say Dark Souls sort of counts as (dragons, suits of armor, swords). Maybe Bloodborne would be an okay compromise? (To Op: Bloodborne has the same creators and similar gameplay to Dark Souls, but has more of a dark Victorian setting, with pistols and the like)

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll have to watch a video of Dark Souls later. The wikipedia description doesn't sound dark, just confusing.

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[personal profile] thewakokid 2017-02-26 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Doom sounds like what you're after. Violent dark fairly well known about. GTA is probably one of the most well known games, but that less dark.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2017-02-26 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
No and maybe.

Unless this kid is one of those shitty little morons who heard about "Brutal Doom" and insists on calling it "the way Doom was meant to be played" despite not being ALIVE when Doom came out, I don't see him playing Doom 1/2, and while Doom 2016 was An Event the multiplayer's fast on the way out.

GTA Online might be a solid pick, though.

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(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
GTA = Grand Theft Auto?

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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2017-02-27 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
You mentioned above you're going for kind of a 'school shooter' thing?

ia with the Dark Souls and Doom suggestions, but Counterstrike is huge right now and it has a real-life element those other games don't have. ime the average player skews a little older than games like CoD, and there's a HUGE real-money trading/gambling subculture around it based around collecting cool in-game weapon skins, which has spilled over into real life with some companies manufacturing those weapons irl as collectables (notably Elemental Knives and Fadecase).

Alternatively, I would suggest EVE Online for much the same reasons.

Re: Writing Help Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
So you have this really neat idea of a scenario, which relationships you'd like to explore, what emotional developments you'd like to see happening and how the ending looks like.

And suggestions about going about figuring out what happens in the middle?

Re: Writing Help Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Write the ending how you want it to be, then write the scene before the ending, and then you take step after step back towards the beginning. That usually works for me, although I'm not stuck like that very often.
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Re: Writing Help Thread

[personal profile] th0rns_n_r0ses 2017-02-26 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You just revolutionized the way I look at writing.

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Re: Writing Help Thread

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Jim Butcher has some tips:

http://jimbutcher.livejournal.com/1865.html

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Sort of related to ghost stories

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
(but also sort of just curiosity but I'm using this thread anyway)

Is there any type of law that makes it so realtors have to disclose crimes/murders/etc that happened in the house? I know that is a semi common trope in ghost fiction, but does it have any basis in real life? I would think that would be nigh impossible to enforce, but I was wondering.

Re: Sort of related to ghost stories

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This should help! http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/selling-my-house-do-i-have-disclose-previous-death-here.html

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The part I like more...

(Anonymous) 2017-02-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm writing a fic that starts as a futurefic canon-divergence AU anyway by aging up a couple characters and assuming a canon-similar life first r the seasons I didn't watch plus the future. But then these characters get taken from everything they know and thrust into situations and experiences that deeply affect them emotionally until they hate each other and are separated.

Then their old life catches up with them and they (and their old friends) have to deal with how bad things are. Problem is, aside from the breaking point moment, I care way more about the last-third than the first two. Like, I don't even really know how they end up in the new place, what happens to them beyond the big event that cements their anti-relationship, or how their old friends get there.

And there's a part of me that just wants to start at the end and call it a big fat AU but I figure I'm pushing the boundaries enough of what people will want to read.

IDK what to do. What do you all think?

Re: The part I like more...

(Anonymous) 2017-02-27 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Why don't you write the part you really want to write first and then look, if it works on its own.

I always had the impression that people can be pretty vocal about hating AUs, but at least half the most popular fics in the big fandoms are AUs that have very little to do with canon.