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[ SECRET POST #3800 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3800 ⌋

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[Killing Stalking]

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[The 100, Echo and Bellamy]

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[Anne (the new remake of L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables)]

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[Pokémon ORAS]

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[Homestuck]

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What's a fudanshi

a male fujoshi ie a guy whose into 2D male/male.

But they're not gay?

they can be but it's not guaranteed

Well, I guess that's the part I'm not quite getting

What's not to get? You think you only can ship a relationship that fits your sexual orientation? Shipping is about liking the dynamics between two characters.

Are we talking about shipping or porn here? I guess my mind was kind of at porn rather than shipping, my apologies if that was an incorrect mindset

Also, there's a difference between shipping things, and being a member of a fandom specifically devoted to shipping m/m stuff? Like, at the point where you're identifying yourself on the basis of liking m/m stories generally, that's something distinct from shipping things that are m/m. And that's not wrong obviously, but

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(Anonymous) - 2017-05-31 00:07 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2017-05-31 00:17 (UTC) - Expand

I've stumbled upon places on the internet full of straight guys fantasizing about sucking cock. So I can see this, actually.

Raise your hand if you immediately thought of Cockrub Warriors:
http://man2manalliance.org/crw/sg.html

…no, it's not safe for work.

Straight people can enjoy gay stories without being gay/bi, news at eleven.

Well, I guess I was thinking more in terms of gay porn

I hope it's not homophobic to suggest that it's a little uncommon for straight men to enjoy watching gay porn

Just butting in to say I know straight women who like lesbian porn. Because it's about their own bodies feeling good and they don't feel confronted by a guy being involved. Doesn't mean they are personally sexually attracted to women. Not sure why it's any different for a guy.

Fair go then, I guess.

I'm a hetero female and I'm in to f/f ships seeing as they make up the majority of my favorite ships.
Yet I've only rarely seen hetero males who can ship m/m or at least they don't admit it.

There's a lot of straight guys who ship m/m. They just NEVER admit it un-anon. But go to any anonymous forum and they'll start crawling out of the woodwork.

Like, for example, a lot of straight guys romanced Dorian in Dragon Age: Inquisition, because they liked him better than the straight options, and you'd even see dudes on reddit and the various chans passing around Dorian/m!Inquisitor fanfic links and stuff. Same thing with SoRiku in Kingdom Hearts, Hannigram, etc.

Huh.

This shouldn't really surprise me since I've met straight girls who liked f/f before, but I am kinda surprised by straight dudes into m/m, I guess because there's a bit more of a stigma around guys liking romance anyway but liking gay romance would be something I'd figure they'd not be into purely on the whole 'I'm not gay' front.

This isn't bad at all though, it's actually pretty interesting and nice to know that there are straight dudes who's reaction to m/m isn't some variant of being grossed out.

Yeah, it is mostly due to stigma - both with romance and porn. Sure, some of it is pure preferences but the dissonance does not help - notice how in 'straight' porn some directors shoehorn girl on girl scenes? Gay porn never gets random surprise threesomes while lesbian one ... yep. However, in my home town it was common for teens to say 'lesbians are okay in porn or in threesomes lololol, gays are always gross'. Even if we disagree - we still grow up around that.

I had a friend who was as straight as they go even to the point of working in computer shop, playing drums, liking metal and having good relationship with his parents. He did like yaoi and slash, has a girlfriend (also straight). Point of it is - he is a crossdresser (yep, outed, has a blog) and one of best ones I seen (here I mean him being best in his own niche). Yep, his girlfriend knows and supports. Notice how silly it is of me to explain that as if not due to cultural weirdness, it would not be necessary.

Less 'extreme' examples are a youtuber who reviews yaoi and the dude who runs one of those weird manga blogs but he said so on the side when asked. Dragon Age (someone mentioned it below but in relation to game play) had few straight blokes writing slash fics. However, most dudes mention that if they know someone who is in some fandom as seen those as betas or just silent fans.

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digitalghosts - 2017-05-31 20:59 (UTC) - Expand

Nope. Still don't understand. 2D like on paper?

Guy who likes yaoi

Okay. Thanks. OP, you think a straight guy getting off on guy on guy porn would be hot.
If a straight guy got off on yaoi he wouldn't be all that straight.

But there are lots of fudanshi who identify as straight? What you like in your porn doesn't necessarily translate to the kind of relationship you personally want to be in. Especially when we're talking cartoon art styles vs. real life, or romantic/kinky love stories.

You might say it maybe puts them a little on the queer scale, and maybe so, but if they aren't interested in personally having sex with a dude I think the can go ahead and identify as straight.

So imagine you have a het woman who's into lesbian porn, a gay woman or man who gets off to het porn or an asexual person who gets off to ... any porn at all: Would you also try to invalidate their sexual orientations?

Manga, anime, cartoons, etc.

Not live action or 3D animation, basically.

My thoughts exactly!

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