[ SECRET POST #3888 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3888 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Congrats, OP.
The level of butthurt commenters on this secret is going to be good.
For the record, I'm with you. If someone is shipping anyone under the age of sixteen with an adult (ie over the age of 20) then yeah, it's pretty squicky. The people who justify it with statements like 'a teenager is technically not a child' worry me.

[(Anonymous)]

"Butthurt" is honestly a meaningless critcism nowadays because its used for anything to "someone ineffectivly hurling insults because they disagree" to "someone making legit critcsms of your arguement".

You and OP just sound like dense screechy brats.

[(Anonymous)]

The people who justify it with statements like 'a teenager is technically not a child' worry me.

That, or "it's legal in some countries!"

Like, yeah. Nine is the age of consent in some countries, and some countries marry off little girls to adult men. Legality is not the issue.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT, and this.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, this is mostly about the immense US centrism in fandom and the inability of most of you people to wrap your little heads around the fact that no, 18 is not some magical mystery age where you turn from innocent child to predator if you date a younger person. To bring up shit like "9 years omg" is incredibly stupid because this is not what people mean and you fucking know it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh really? So your arbitrary magical number when a kid becomes an adult is the right one, then? Is it 10? 11? 14? 15?

Fuck US law, frankly, I consider anyone under 20 a kid (i.e. all teenagers) based on psychological evidence about brain development. If you can't see why people would be uncomfortable at least with young-to-mid teens in sexual scenarios, I really have no idea what to tell you.

[(Anonymous)]

Brain is fully developed by age 25, not 20.

[(Anonymous)]

With more extreme differences in the teen range compared to a fully developed adult. But hey, as long as you're not arguing that an adult having sex with a 15-year-old is okay.

[(Anonymous)]

If the adult is 18, I see no problem.

[(Anonymous)]

Brain development is probably not finished until the mid-twenties up to thirty. So anyone under 25 is a child now? Just because you think you found the perfect arbitrary age when a child should be considered and adult doesn't make it the truth, no matter how much of a tantrum you throw.

And where exactly did I mention anything about not understanding people being uncomfortable with that? Stop making things up.

[(Anonymous)]

You skewing the argument upward hardly negates it. When you're arguing that it's arbitrary and relative for teens, especially younger teens, to have consensual sex with adults, yeah that's gross. Any kind of cultural difference doesn't make it somehow okay.

[(Anonymous)]

Again, where did I say that?
And yes, it changes the argument because based on what you wrote, people under 25 shouldn't be able to consent to sex either and anyonehavin sex with them is gross.

[(Anonymous)]

A teenager's brain is going to be significantly less developed than a 24-year-old. It's a pretty fair distinction, and your argument conveniently ignores that.

[(Anonymous)]

And you still conveniently move the goalpost all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, this whole thread I've said teens are kids. Read up if you've forgotten, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

I noticed this too, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

You also said "based on brain development", read your own comment.

[(Anonymous)]

But a teenager is not a child.

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There's a pretty big difference in sleeping with a fifteen year old and sleeping with a seven year old. One being that a fifteen year old will have a sexually mature body capable of enjoying sex and enough of an understanding of what sex entails to make the consensual choice of participating in it.

(and because the internet has reached the point that the above will qualify as "pedo apologist": IRL, I think it's pretty goddamn skeevy for a fifteen year old to be in a relaitonship with an adult, but for fuck's sake)

[(Anonymous)]

'OMG, these people disagree with me!!! So butthurt!!!'

Yeah, or maybe I'm a CSA survivor who's pretty fuckin' tired of being used as a prop in arguments over who's pairing is more problematic. No, I don't think anyone's ships make them a pedo. No, I don't think the CIA wants to know that you saw some blogger shipping a *big scary adult* with an *innocent uwu babbu child*. No one cares.

[(Anonymous)]

No one cares.

In Canada (and IIRC Australia too) someone might care. Underage pornographic drawings are illegal here. Unless someone is actually mass-producing and distributing said underage pornographic drawings, the police are very unlikely to care, so you're right about that. But nonetheless, it is possible that if you are a Canadian citizen and someone reports you for your underage fanart, you could face legal consequences.

[(Anonymous)]

That's true, but given how often dipshits on the internet assume that everyone lives in the continental US, I'm not so worried about that. I *am* worried about being mobbed by shrieking tweens who've found that suicide-baiting strangers for their ships fills the hollow void in their lives... but hey. Just the cost of being online, right?

[(Anonymous)]

I *am* worried about being mobbed by shrieking tweens who've found that suicide-baiting strangers for their ships fills the hollow void in their lives...

Yeah, this is a shitty thing to do, regardless of age. But what does it have to do with the comment above it?

Are you implying that people who would consider reporting pedophilic fanart to authorities are the same people who "suicide-bait strangers for their ships"?

Because I doubt it. People whose strategy is to harass are more likely to doxx than go to the authorities, because they want to remain involved and do the tormenting themselves.

I seriously considered reporting a piece of fanart once. I was very explicit and involved an adult character having penetrative sex with an elementary school child. I have never in my life harassed someone on the internet. I stick to my lane. When I saw the fanart that made me consider reporting it/them, I didn't think, "I'm going to tear this person a new one," I thought, "This person may well actually be a pedophile, is there something I should do?"

[(Anonymous)]

Antis often claim, at the very least, that they have or that they will report people to the police/CIA/some other authority for "child porn"; I have no way of knowing how often they actually do. So yes, those things are related.
While I'm sure at least some antis are aware they are vicious monsters, quite a lot of them are just very, very deeply into a culture of performative outrage and virtue signalling, and seem to quite honestly believe that if they call the cops on someone for their NaruSasu fic, the cops will go and arrest that person. Because the Antis are right, and all authority figures will agree with them and support them.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here.
"uwu think of the survivors!"
"We're right here, shut up and listen to us!"
"uwu they'd be so hurt by your fic where Sherlock and Watson hold hands" "wtf no that's not true."
"uwu and any anyone who doesn't agree with me, well, maybe they deserved anything that happened to them in the past because shipping two fictional characters is worse than anything else uwu"