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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-26 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #3949 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3949 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Her being a boy would have been boring and predictable.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, I think her being female (given the strong influences from Firestarter and Elfen Leid) was more "expected" than her being a boy and/or the core group being female or blended. But whatever, the show's an accurate love letter to what existed before.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding? "Poor woobie girl with awesome psychic powers she got by being a science experiment and has to learn the ways of normal humans (usually from a boy)" is literally a trope.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
In what? Anime? Comics?

I've never seen a character like Eleven in any of the Western live-action media I consume.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-27 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Firestarter (with young Drew Barrymore no less) and Carrie come immediately to mind as prior art. More Firestarter than Carrie. Netflix also tapped it with the OA.

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
But those girls are always very pretty, waifubait. The girl here is not.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
My thoughts exactly.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Why

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I just like the idea of boys caring for each other, platonically or romantically. And here in the good ol' repressed US, you don't see much of that. Granted, you see it now than when I was growing up. And Eleven is just really cute whether she's looking more like a girl or a boy.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess

Platonic stuff is cool

It's just weird to want to get rid of female characters to serve that

Make more good things of all types

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, are just choosing to ignore the part where I said I like it how it is? I'm not saying "Eleven should be a boy! Get rid of girl Eleven!!"

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, my eyes practically roll into the back of my head when people say stuff like this.

Platonic male relationships are glorified in media, and they’re not difficult to find - especially in the US. We love our male friendships. If anything, we need more platonic male/female friendships portrayed in our media.

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
When I didn't know what the show was, I just saw pics and gifs of a kid in a dress with a buzz-cut, I thought it was about a trans or non-binary kid experimenting and getting support from their friends.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because a girl with a buzzcut can't just be a girl with a buzzcut, as tumblr has decided.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha oh wow internet, never change.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, Eleven being a boy would've made the show distinctly less awesome. I remember seeing her on screen for the first time and literally thinking, "Please be a girl," because I couldn't entirely tell if she was or not. And that in and of itself - that a female character was being introduced and it was ambiguous whether she was female or not - was so interesting and unusual.

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(Anonymous) 2017-10-26 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And I agree with this, too.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Meh.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, for the slash, right?

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I just wish she'd had a personality.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, she was institutionalized her whole life, shown very little affection, forced to spy on people with her brain, and opened a portal to the Twilight Zone which scared her shitless. We're lucky we got as much personality as "I like waffles."

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
This. I think the way she was characterized felt very right, under the circumstances.

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Also i was watching a video the other day where someone was drawing out the ways all the main characters were introduced and how it almost immediately established their key traits which the rest of the series continued to flesh out. with Eleven he basically listed the ones that came out clearest overall and they were "quiet, scared, confused, intelligent, strong" - and I agree, but the thing about a lot of those is that they're things you can't really say out loud, you have to kinda let them come out through the writing and the acting. (I'd also add "traumatized" to that list, which you CAN spell out through backstory and they did.)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-27 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
No thanks.