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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-02 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3986 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If they'd been dating less than a year I'd understand your disapproval.

But less than 2? Some people don't need over five years to figure things out. And they definitely didn't have finances to worry about.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ehhh. Under some circumstances I'd agree but we're talking about a British royal who had a fairly wild oat-sowing period and a Hollywood actress. Given the volatile and short marriages the rich and famous often have, a longer engagement is not necessarily a bad thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
If they'd been dating less than a year I'd understand your disapproval. But less than 2?

I agree. Whenever I hear about people getting married after less than a year, I kind of cringe internally, like, "It's your life and all but that seems like a bad idea."

But once they're over the year mark I try not to really form any opinions at all.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - Haha, that sounds kind of funny, though. Like 11.5 months and you're doomed, but 12.5 months and it's probably okay?

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I, too, am comfortable drawing conclusions from a sample size of one

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not royal -savvy so..uh, what DID happen 'the last time' ?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Edward VIII abdicated the throne because his intention to marry the American divorcee Wallis Simpson was seen as politically and constitutionally unacceptable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII_abdication_crisis

Of course, it's not a perfect comparison. Edward was the king; Harry is unlikely to ever be king. Wallis Simpson was seen as basically a gold-digger; Markle isn't in a similar position. And finally, Edward VIII abdicated 81 fucking years ago.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2017-12-03 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Edward was a Nazi sympathiser and given to trying to meddle in politics, and some of the government were pretty relieved to have a solid reason to lever him out.

So actually, Edward abdicating to marry Wallis Simpson was probably the best thing he did for his country.

In any case, their marriage did last and seems to have been reasonably successful, in a bitter, resentful, Nazi-loving sort of way. So....

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, don't we all remember where we were the day we heard that Edward VIII was abdicating the throne? Well, I don't... but I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You couldn't get white onions, because of the war.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I remember. I was living in Shelbyville, which was called Morganville in those days.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If they were a lot younger, I might agree, but the older you get, the less time there is for "Let's just see where this goes," especially if you want kids.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, the British royal family probably doesn't encourage the "Let's just see where this goes" mindset... not where prominent members are concerned.

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[personal profile] illiadandoddity 2017-12-02 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
What happened last time? What happened last time is that Edward VIII was selfish as hell. Meghan isn't currently married to someone else and being pressured by the prince to get a divorce and marry him instead, which was the boat Wallis Simpson was in.

Not to mention that in general the world has gotten over the idea of divorce being a terrible, evil thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Wallis wasn't exactly reluctant to get that divorce and marry a prince, though? Probably because she didn't realize the royal family would cut her dead and not even bestow a title upon her.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2017-12-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Also, Harry is currently 5 back from the throne (Charles, William, George, Charlotte, Harry), rather than actually on it, like Edward was.

While the 'American divorcee' part is an amusing coincidence, Harry and Great Uncle Edward are not in even vaguely analogous situations.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that this has Sarah and Andrew written all over it. Hopefully no-one will be sucking anyone's toes in public this time.
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[personal profile] cloudtrader 2017-12-03 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
What? I don't understand this reference and now I need someone to explain it to me, please.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Hey! Remember Koo Stark?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-02 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
They're adults. They can do what they want.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
He's the nicer looking prince but obviously not the smarter one.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, my husband proposed to me after 4 months of dating and were were married 13 months after our first date (we had a huge wedding planned for a year and a half after the date we actually got married but we had an opportunity to get hitched at my childhood dream wedding destination and decided to elope as soon as the marriage license was valid. We've been married 18 1\2 years and I don't regret a thing. Our wedding cost my parents all of $100.00 and my dress was loaned to me through an elaborate series of professional favors (it was a Disney wedding gown) and it was small and intimate and perfect. Sometimes it's OK to rush into it.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, my Mom likes to say that as far as she's seen, all marriages have the same chance of succeeding (50/50) no matter how long you've known each other before hand. Might be why my parents got married after four months and celebrated 33 years together this year. (And it's not a generational thing, because it's down right disturbing to me how many of my parents' childhood friends are on their third or fourth spouse.)

'Course, my parents didn't date so much as they courted with marriage being the object of the exercise. Wish we were still doing that openly.

(Also my father was older and had spent his youth sowing so many wild oats that he literally had to find a bride in another city because his rep in his home town was so terrible. )