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⌈ Secret Post #4049 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[thewakokid]

I guess not a super-fan, but she writes her own supernatural fiction.

Plus Talbots are all over the place.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[thewakokid]

Yeah, obviously Dracula is more well known. but the wolfman has been around a bit as well.

Re: What are some movies that your opinion has changed on after numerous viewings?

[(Anonymous)]

A musical, not a movie, but RENT. The characters seem a lot more entitled in my thirties than they did in my twenties.

I'm not one of those fans who side with Benny, I just think they're all more fundamentally flawed than I realized the first time around.

[feotakahari]

I’ve also seen right wing used as a description for people who want the church to control everything. They’re big on freedom from government interference, so they might qualify as right-wing libertarian.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh. I would recognize it, but I can see how someone wouldn't.

I mean, you're kind of making my point with the Scooby Doo reference, in a way. Those specific monster movies are really only notable anymore for the influence that they've had on subsequent culture through things like parodies and references and tropes and remakes. And, really, at this point, it's mostly influencing things at a significant remove. I mean, the original Scooby Doo series itself ended 40 years ago - people today know Scooby Doo itself from remakes and parodies, and the Universal monster movies are another degree removed beyond that. Of course, the Wolfman is hardest hit by this, because people are familiar with the other franchises through other means - Frankenstein and Dracula through the books, The Mummy because there was an actual successful remake - whereas people are mostly familiar with werewolf stories through more recent werewolf movies, which were influenced by The Wolfman but were not actually part of that franchise.

This is also probably why that whole Universal Dark Universe thing completely bombed, by the way.

I mean, really

[(Anonymous)]

how many black and white movies from the 1930s and 40s do you think most people are generally familiar with? I would be surprised if it was more than a handful

[thewakokid]

Well it means that the government has only two choices, then doesn't it? Their statement means that the government needs to either stop recognising marriage at all for straight people or gay, or legalise it for everyone. It is a bit of a fence-sitty poition, but it's a fence the government can't afford to sit on. They can't un-recognise straight marriage, so by default it means they have to recognise gay marriage. I'd call the libertarian idea a valid support for gay marriage.

Re: What are some movies that your opinion has changed on after numerous viewings?

[kaijinscendre]

I loved The Neverending Story as a kid. While I still love parts of the movie, each subsequent viewing as an adult makes me realize how boring much of it is.

[thewakokid]

Don't they want the church intermingled with the government? I mean, Maybe there are some low teir libertarians out there who would be happy with the church running the government, but I can't say that that really falls in line with libertarian values.

Assuming they are willing to stick with their libertarian values once their guys get into the government. Power corrupts, and all that. but as an Ideology, I just don't see how it could work.

Just sharing a boss ass video for my fellow Rick and Morty fans - geniuses only

[thewakokid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjXjmTs8nYg

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure that "extreme right wing" necessarily entails aggressive state intervention - you could have, for instance, corporatist societies, or societies in which nominally non-governmental market mechanisms are used to achieve right-wing ends, or a free market but only within a right-wing social context enforced by authoritarian government action.

But generally, I'm thinking of the paleolibertarian current here, people like Ilana Mercer and Hans-Herman Hoppe, and then also definitely a bunch of people in the neo-reactionary movement, particularly Mencius Moldbug.

Re: I mean, really

[thewakokid]

Well, ok, so you only new about the mummy because of the Brendan Fraiser films? Or had you at least heard of the mummy prior to that?

Re: I mean, really

[(Anonymous)]

I knew about The Mummy before that, but I'm also an exceptionally huge nerd

[(Anonymous)]

It's certainly a more striking look. I have no memory whatsoever of what she looked like as a man - just some random dude, and I was there during th e Matrix heyday. I think if she'd been presenting as an average-looking woman and then started presenting as a guy with a neon pink mohawk or something, I'd have the same reaction.

[(Anonymous)]

Who is this and why would he be Bond?

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[thewakokid]

Those specific monster movies are really only notable anymore for the influence that they've had

Agreed, and while the Wolfman hasn't had the same impace as dracula, he'd had more impact than the mummy at least before the Brendan Fraiser films. And even before the Brendan Fraiser films, it would have been weird if somone said "What the fuck is the mummy?" You'd point to scooby Doo and go "Seriously?"

Re: I mean, really

[thewakokid]

I don't think you need to be a nerd, tho. I think you just need to have seen more than 5 episodes of Sccoby Doo as a child. Chances are you'd have encountered most of the Hammer Horror crew.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[(Anonymous)]

People would know about mummies through diffuse pop-cultural sources, but that's not the same as knowing about the original Universal movie

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think the issue is with having an opinion, but rather with putting words in someone's mouth the second they mention their own opinion. There's a difference between

A: I like X/Y.
B: Oh, I don't like X/Y.

and

A: I like X/Y.
B: Well, that's okay as long as you don't romanticize it or write fic where X is a homoromantic demisexual barista who serves coffee to panplatonic bisexual med student Y because then X is subservient to Y and that's gross tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, only maybe 5% of white people can pull off dreads and she's not one of them.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[thewakokid]

Oh, I see, no, I'm not talking about knowing about the movie the wolfman. I'm talking about knowing about the CHARACTER of the Wolfman.

Re: Help me get a sense of perspective on this

[(Anonymous)]

But how would you know about the character of The Wolfman without knowing about the movie?

You can't know about the character just by knowing about werewolves, because werewolves are a general kind of horror monster that aren't specifically connected to The Wolfman (and also are called by a different name). So I don't see how you'd make the connection without knowing about the actual specific movie.

[(Anonymous)]

DA: if he gets a fractured piece of my own personality and fucks me, i'd be down

Re: I mean, really

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that people are familiar with werewolves, but I don't think that automatically makes them familiar with The Wolfman.

And, I mean, not to reiterate the point too much, but the Hammer Horror version of the werewolf is Curse Of The Werewolf - which is a werewolf, and not a wolfman. Similarly, as far as I can tell, the only episode of Scooby Doo that has The Wolfman in it (as opposed to a werewolf) is episode 7 of season 1 of The New Scooby-Doo Movies, "Sandy Duncan's Jekyll and Hide", where classic movie monsters interrupt filming of a new movie, guest starring Sandy Duncan, original air date October 21 1972, never released on DVD. Which I kind of doubt that many kids today have actually watched.

This is kind of my point: people are familiar with all kinds of diffuse ideas about werewolves. They're not familiar with the specific monster movie called The Wolfman (or its remake).

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that it's wrong to assume someone thinks that the character is a homoromantic demisexual barista who serves coffee to panplatonic bisexual med student Y. You won't see any argument from me on that.