[ SECRET POST #4268 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4268 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have a problem with talking shit about the dead, if it's the right situation and it's deserved.

This is a deeply, deeply shitty reason to do so. It's not a reasonable justification. It's bad.

[supermanda]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

How is being critical of self-destructive behavior in an erst-while role model "deeply shitty"?

[(Anonymous)]

addiction

[(Anonymous)]

Oh. Addiction makes them sing and talk about how great doing Xanax is.

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently no one is ever responsible for their own terrible, stupid life choices, somehow.

[(Anonymous)]

I can already tell this is going to be a deeply stupid thread, fuck me.

I think the time immediately after someone's death - while it's not impervious to all judgment - does demand a certain amount of empathy and an attempt at understanding. In many cases of drug ODs, the choices that someone made involve a lot of stupidity, and also frequently the presence of addiction, which is a real thing, a real disease, that's immensely hard to overcome. Even if someone made the choices that ultimately led them down that path, I think it's appropriate to be empathetic towards the end result and the suffering that they went through. I think looking at it through some kind of morally superior "Well, you chose to do drugs, so you deserved everything else that happened to you" is some fucked-ass shit, and I don't understand it.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Very well put.

[philstar22]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU. So many people seem to lack basic empathy.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes addiction is a disease. But like any disease if you CHOOSE to not treat it then it's on you. No one should get a free pass for being an asshole or promoting others to fall down the hole of addiction.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, overcoming addiction is just like how people can choose to get depression and snap out of it at will. All those drugs you get described for mental illness are also necessary. It's THAT easy to snap out of addiction.

lmao fuck you.

[(Anonymous)]

As a person dealing with depression, fuck you, you're a piece of shit. Don't ever dare comparing depression to addiction. Depression isn't something you choose, but doing drugs is, smoking or driking alcohol is. So yeah, fuck you. Don't compare prople who are sick to retards who willingly choose to ruin their lives.

[(Anonymous)]

Not really a good comparison. There can be hereditary components to addiction, but a big part of that is the lifestyle choices a person makes. I'm not sure you can say that about depression. Also the discussion isn't about choosing to be sick, it's about a person's behavior (which they're still responsible for) and choosing to seek help.

[(Anonymous)]

It's ridiculous. Every time I see some news regarding celebrity addicts or general fuckups they treat it like the tragedies befalling them is never their fault? It's either the environment, childhood trauma, parents, the time they tripped and fell when they were 2 years old that snowballed into a huge trauma and never their choice.

Do they do it so to provoke some sympathy from us, or is it that they want us to never assume any kind of responsibility in our lives?

[(Anonymous)]

this is such a weird comment to me

tragedy can be someone's own damn fault and still be fucking tragic

that goes back to like, aristotle

humans don't have to be perfect or make great decisions for them or people mourning them to deserve human sympathy

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit. What is bad about calling out drug users who talk about how awesome drugs are?

[(Anonymous)]

Can you give me one example of someone who has actually done this?

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between talking about drug use being bad, and talking about recently deceased addicts being pieces of shit for using drugs.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

For using drugs? Nah. For making drug use part of their brand and advertising how great it is on social media when millions of people are influenced by their music? Yeah. That's shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

Good thing the secret makes that distinction really clearly

[philstar22]

You have to be talking about a specific celebrity because I can't think of a single OD that made the news where the celebrity had glorified drugs. The only ones I can think of all were struggling with addiction, knew it was a bad thing, and wanted to quit.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. Agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

If someone's dead because they're a shitty person and made bad *choices*....then obviously me or people that I love are not shitty people and we do not make bad choices, so we are SAFE from ever having to worry about this.
so
I'm better than you and I'm going to live forever.
(empathy comes from understanding that no one gets out of here alive)