[ SECRET POST #4397 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4397 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[She-Ra: The Princesses of Power]



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03.
[Mystic Messenger]


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04. [SPOILERS for Steven Universe episode "Escapism"]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]

[Utawarerumono]


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06. [WARNING for discussion of animal abuse]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]



















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #629.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
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[(Anonymous)]

Fantasies are fine. Don't let anyone tell you different.

[(Anonymous)]

You're clearly aware of the fact that it's a fantasy, so I think you're just being overly self-critical here. Which I still very much understand.

[(Anonymous)]

Fantasies are fine. Even if it *was* a turn-on for you... again... fantasy. Don't let people make you feel bad for enjoying them.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, rape fantasies are my number one sexual turn-on, and I for one don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong. Even though I've been told I am over and over and over and over and over....

[(Anonymous)]

This secret speaks to me on a personal level. I have revenge fantasies for most of the fandoms I follow in which the villain/s hurt me in some way and afterwards I retaliate against them by destroying their life. I try not to over analyze it, but I can't avoid worrying about what these fantasies might say about me.

[(Anonymous)]

I can understand that-- I have a lot of 'rapist punished and assault recovered from' fantasies, though not necessarily related to a fandom, outside of my one fandom where there's canon that I can build on for it.

I sometimes feel a little weird about it because I've only been through relatively mild harassment, but then I'm like 'no it's messed up that I'm saying it like that'

[(Anonymous)]

Have y'all seen "I Spit on Your Grave"?

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely do not have fantasies about being raped. That said, I do really like when a story deals with rape by having the character get revenge and then move on. Or even if they don't get revenge, I enjoy when the character just isn't that traumatized, and comes through it stronger than ever.

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I could be supportive of rape fantasies, but I've seen so many men on 4chan, youtube, reddit, etc. say "ALL women secretly want to be raped, it's their number 1 fantasy, they're all submissive fuckholes, they just need some good dicking to be put in their place, etc." and it just. I can't stand it. It's not fair that women should be shamed for having fantasies and it's not fair that we're all lumped together like this when I have absolutely no desire to be submissive nor do I have rape fantasies. It's just all a mess for me.

[(Anonymous)]

So you can't support women's fantasies because of men's view on them?

That is all kinds of fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

"It's not fair that women should be shamed for having fantasies and it's not fair that we're all lumped together like this when I have absolutely no desire to be submissive nor do I have rape fantasies. It's just all a mess for me."

I said it right there that I don't think it's fair that women get shamed for their fantasies because of men being shit. But I'm lumped into that mindset men have of us by virtue of being female and it puts me at risk. I put the blame entirely on men, though, not on the women who have rape fantasies. I have a shit ton of issues with men tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Right? It's like saying you can't support gay marriage because homophobes and assholes say shitty things about the "gay agenda".

[(Anonymous)]

You are legitimately dumb. OP is clearly blaming men.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. That's...that's not an apt comparison at all.

Like I said in my actual comment, it's not fair that women get shamed for their rape fantasies, but those fantasies do put other women like myself at risk. It's 100% the fault of men and I hate that we live in a society where women saying "oh, I have fantasies about rape, but they're literally just fantasies and I would never want to be raped in real life" gets interpreted as "LOL all women want to be raped, they secretly crave it" by a lot of men. I think I have every right to be terrified when I see men espouse this shit on an uncomfortably large scale.

[(Anonymous)]

Men's views on this (scarily common, not just on the above asshole-magnet sites) are 100 times more fucked up, but hey,you carry on supporting that external and internalised misogyny.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is a frustrating aspect of it for me too. But I do try to place the blame where it belongs, which is on the men who will seize on anything to support their misogyny. Because the thing is, I don't think these men are actually confused. I don't think they truly believe women want to be raped. (I don't think they care what women want or don't want.) I think it's just what they say to justify their own views.

The only thing I take issue with is when women, in real life, want to play "no means yes" with a guy, sexually, without actually discussing it with him first. Like, they want to say they're not interested and say no, and they want him to push and "prove he wants them" by not taking no for an answer, because they find that hot? I don't know how common this kind of behavior even is, tbh, but if someone gets off on that dynamic then it's so, so important that they discuss it with their partner first. Not just for their own safety, but to avoid perpetuating any genuine confusion about the nature of consent.

[(Anonymous)]

I was with you for this:

Yeah, this is a frustrating aspect of it for me too. But I do try to place the blame where it belongs, which is on the men who will seize on anything to support their misogyny. Because the thing is, I don't think these men are actually confused. I don't think they truly believe women want to be raped. (I don't think they care what women want or don't want.) I think it's just what they say to justify their own views.

But you lost me here:

The only thing I take issue with is when women, in real life, want to play "no means yes" with a guy, sexually, without actually discussing it with him first. Like, they want to say they're not interested and say no, and they want him to push and "prove he wants them" by not taking no for an answer, because they find that hot?

Because I have a hard time believing this is a widespread thing to the point where it's a real problem and not just one or two women with a screw loose.

[(Anonymous)]

... you've genuinely never heard of people playing coy? Because it's a fairly common thing that happens a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

But those are men trying to justify their own shitty behavior. A rape fantasy is still a fantasy, and unless you're role-playing where actual consent is still in play 100%, it's shitty men being shitty men.

[(Anonymous)]

It looks like everyone else got the important points, so I'm just gonna say that there are a lot of boards on Reddit, you should stop going to the shitty incel red pill ones.

Also "youtube comments" and "4chan"? Come on, Anon, you know better than to put raw sewage in your brain, that's where the brain-eating ameobas live.

[(Anonymous)]

I'll give you 4chan, but youtube encompasses hundreds of thousands of men and a lot of their comments are nightmarish. These people exist, don't just handwave them away as a silly minority of trolls. Just look at the recent Gilette ad, there are a fuck ton of these shitty, awful men out there.

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree, which is why I'm not against the fantasies, but I'm against *calling* them rape fantasies. Because they're not. If you're controlling the fantasy, even though it appears that the fantasy is of rape, it's not rape - you "told" the character to rape you, therefore he's not raping you.

I would call a "triumph over adversity" fantasy instead. That's what you really want - a scenario where you're tested and you come out on top.

[(Anonymous)]

Rape fantasies are a lot more common than a lot of people know, with something like 30-50% of women admitting to having them. You're not alone in this and shouldn't feel bad about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Rape fantasy is an oximoron. You have no control during rape. In fantasies you can stop and think about something else when it gets too much.