[ SECRET POST #4427 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4427 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Beast Legends vs. Buzzfeed Unsolved]


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[image is Scarlett Johansson from The Other Boleyn Girl]


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[Josh Homme, Queens of the Stone Age]


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(Sex Education)


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[Tidying up with Marie Kondo]


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(Gay Korean porn maker Seegasm)


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[youtube beauty gurus]


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[Doctor Who, "It Takes You Away"]









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Comments

[fscom]

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[image is Scarlett Johansson from The Other Boleyn Girl]

[(Anonymous)]

See, the thing is, it's annoying when people complain about things. That's why you're getting pushback.

[(Anonymous)]

It's a valid subjective opinion - of course it is - but unfortunately, it does tend to lead to a lot of really annoying, nit-pick-y, missing-the-point conversations about media. I think that's a lot of what frustrates people about it.

[(Anonymous)]

People who are annoyed by historical inaccuracy in historical fiction don't bother me.

The ones who are annoyed by "historical inaccuracy" in fantasy worlds, do.

[(Anonymous)]

Or people who are annoyed by historical inaccuracy but are actually wrong about the history. Or people who are annoyed by historical inaccuracy but by "historical accuracy" they actually mean "my political opinions".

Obviously OP isn't doing any of that

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm not implying OP does those.

Just saying lots of people who complain about "historical accuracy" fall into those groups, and if people don't like "people who complain about historical accuracy," they might mean largely those.

[(Anonymous)]

Unfortunately a lot of people who's enjoyment is affected will never shut up about it and expect everyone else to agree with them/think no one else should enjoy it because they don't. They also tend to be super judgmental of those who don't mind some historical inaccuracy. So those peoople do act like they're superior.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I don't care if, "Yeah I couldn't really enjoy it because x and y were so inaccurate that it pulled me out of the story." comes out of your mouth (keyboard), but as soon as it switches to how we're all morons for enjoying it, and 'hey didn't you see this mile long list of things that are wrong with it!!', that's when I think they need to STFU.

[(Anonymous)]

I totally understand, OP!

For me it's mostly fine (depends on what they changed and why), as long as they don't claim their version to be historically accurate (looking at you, Philippa Gregory).

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who did grad school in history, I just find that people who complain about historical inaccuracy usually don't have history backgrounds and are very inconsistent with what they point out as inaccurate.

[ibbity]

As someone who's doing history in grad school right now, I find that I'm only really annoyed by inaccuracy if the creator(s) make a big fuss about how smart and accurate and superior their thing is and then it's just...not. if they're blatantly not caring whether they're accurate and just having fun, it's different.

[sparklywalls]

This is me also.

I'm also in this weird place where historical inaccuracies bug me sometimes but not others and a lot of it depends on the era or event being depicted. There are some things where we don't know a lot about it. As long as everything seems to be in a consistent, realistic ballpark for what we do know I'll allow some spicing up. Or even if you obey the rules you set up in your own damned interpretation that's better than nothing. But it will still bother me if creators act like everything they did is 100% true facts and play up to any viewer belief that it's 100% true facts.

But when you're talking about historical periods (usually modern) where we have LOADS on record then yes, historical inaccuracy becomes more bothersome in general. I still don't see the point in raging too hard about it though and will happily have some cool conversations with people about the real events.

Overall I'm good with accepting most things as historical inspired fiction. It's like someone wrote AU fanfiction of an actual historical event I guess?

When people complain about actual fantasy in a generic medieval like society being inaccurate though I just role my eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I would say, mostly, if I can see what they were going for aesthetically, and if it seems decent, I'm willing to roll with it even if it's not accurate

[sparklywalls]

Urgh *ROLL my eyes, damn my fast typing!

[(Anonymous)]

How common is it to find zero historical inaccuracy in historical fiction?

[(Anonymous)]

i was gonna ask - like, how cut and dried is historical accuracy anyway? ofc there's obvious ones, but i watch a lovely lady on youtube who does historical garments with period-appropriate methods for fun and she talks a lot about how she had to speculate on how this and that detail was done and how she fudged so-and-so method because technically it *could* have been used in that period even if it became popular in a later one....
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i don't mind people being bothered by it tho to be clear, i think it's a valid complaint. inaccuracies of any kind can throw people off!

[(Anonymous)]

IME, some inaccuracies are so egregious, you don't need a degree to notice.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, this. I mean, most of us don't have a degree in whatever fandom we're following, but if it's something we're interested in, we'll notice the inconsistency. Same goes for people who are interested in specific historical periods. It's pretty easy to notice glaring inaccuracies.

If you don't care about historical inaccuracies, that's fine. I'm not quite sure why so many people feel that it's tying into "and you think you're so superior for noticing that". No, I noticed it because it's just something that irks me.

[type_wild]

I think it's pretty parallell to people who always prefer the book (or if we're talking anime, always prefer the manga). It's a completely legit stand to take, but there is a good number of them who sincerely seem to think that the only reason people prefer the film/the anime is because they're either bad fans who don't care to do the proper research, or too lazy to read.

It's completely legit to lose one's suspension of disbelief over historical inaccuracy. It's... somewhat less okay to insist that something is BAD because of historical inaccuraies, because it's suggesting that the people who like it are too stupid to know better.

[(Anonymous)]

You do you, OP. Just don't think my enjoyment is a request for you to give me a lecture or a history lesson. I've run into too many people in fandom spaces who think the only reason others can enjoy historical dramas is because they don't know it's inaccurate. We know. Let us like a thing. As long as the complaints aren't in the squee spaces I don't care.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm totally happy with historically inaccurate but pretty, or historically inaccurate but interesting story, as long as they don't then claim it to be 100% accurate and the "true story". Looking at you, Philippa Gregory!

[(Anonymous)]

This. It annoys me that she won't just admit she's writing Tudor fanfiction.

[(Anonymous)]

There’s historical inaccuracy such as “this thing didn’t exist until year X and that grinds my gears/breaks my immersion” sorta nitpicks which is fine IMO

And there’s “-insert minority here- SIMPLY EXISTING?? IN MY HISTORICAL CONTEXT? NOT TODAY SJWS!!!” type whining that reads more as neckbeards getting their panties in a twist and can kindly shut up forever.

[(Anonymous)]

If things jump out at you, they jump out at you. I do get annoyed, though, when people pick one particular aspect of historical accuracy to focus on and then entirely judge a movie by that one thing (and lecture to me about it). With people I've known, it's usually costumes/wardrobe. It doesn't matter what else a movie gets right or wrong, how entertaining it is, or what it's trying to say... man, if those sleeves are 10 years off then it's a bad movie and I get to hear about it.