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[ SECRET POST #4459 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4459 ⌋

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[Dan Bern, WTNV, I Only Listen To the Mountain Goats, the Mountain Goats]

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[The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel]

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[Director James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]

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I hope you feel better. My family's been battling a flu bug since it feels like forever, so here's hoping you don't have the same thing;;

The names in Gathering Blue are an odd case because in the society where it takes place, your name changes its number of syllables as you age. You start out with a one-syllable name when you're born, so for example, Kira was given the name "Kir" at birth and will have a third syllable added to "Kira" when she becomes an adult. I don't know if that has anything to do with why her name was changed, but it might (I don't know much Spanish, is there any sound that can be added to "Kira" that would make it a weird or bad sounding name?)

Not really. Plus there have been cases when that happened and they still kept the name, like the floating island of Laputa in Gulliver's Travels, when in Spanish "la puta" means "the whore".

I will take this over the trend where they gel the front of guys' hair straight up (Cap in Avengers 2, ugh).

I've always wondered if they do the "new look!" thing purely so they can sell more merchandise with each separate movie.

Obviously, once you say something mean one time, you should just kill yourself, because you're evil forever and ever, and there's nothing else left for you to do.

And they pissed off plenty of people doing that to Loki. Imagine the reaction if they did do that with Tony "the main character" Stark! But yeah, seriously not gonna happen.

Edited 2019-03-22 07:18 (UTC)

It's so frustrating. I remember during the Leave campaign in my area, leaflets were pushed through the door showing a map of Europe... with Syria highlighted in red next to it. No other countries, just Syria. Like, for fuck's sake. Thanks for manipulating people into thinking leaving the EU has anything at all to do with Middle Eastern refugees!

This whole thing has been such a terrible mess of misinformation; not one person I know who voted Leave actually did it for any reason to do with the actual EU. One of my mutuals voted Leave and she works for Michelin. Fucking MICHELIN, a French company. Recently she posted the news story of the Preston branch shutting down with a shocked/sad emoji. I was SO DESPERATE to post that "I never thought leopards would eat MY face! (sobs woman who voted for Leopards Eating People's Faces Party)" meme.

So? Even if he had a reason for what he did, that doesn't mean the person he lied to has to trust him or have anything to do with him afterwards. He made his choice, he picked his loyalties. Fine. Let him have them. But he can have the consequences too.

If you hide from me the fact that my parents were murdered, that they were murdered by someone you know, I don't give a fuck what your reasons are, what the extenuating circumstances are. I am never speaking to you again. I am never having anything to do with you again. I am certainly never trusting you again. If that makes me a 'rigid autist', so be it.

DA

Did Steve actually lie to Tony though? I mean, when would the subject have even come up?

And regarding him just not telling Tony, ok, I mean, yes, if Steve and Tony were actually close trusted friends, or even if Steve had been able to bring Bucky in before CW and Bucky and Tony would in be in a situation where they would actually be interacting with each other, then yes, I would think Steve had an obligation to tell him. But as far as MCU goes, Bucky hadn’t hadn’t been brought in yet, and Steve and Tony are “friends from work”, and that’s it. There’s no indication that I know of that they had any interaction between Avengers 1 and CA:WS, and then they were on a team together less than a year before Ultron happened and Tony resigned from the team. And then Tony again goes behind the team’s back on the Accords. (Because of course he knows better than everyone else what’s the best thing to do. Again.) I mean, if I was Steve, I would have had a hard time trusting him either with such a volitile piece of information, especially regarding my best friend who’d been tortured and brainwashed into committing said murder.

I'm pretty sure if you find out that somebody has been murdered, you do in fact have an obligation to mention it. Pretty much as soon as you find out about it. You don't get to keep that one under your hat.

Yes, neither of them trust each other. Neither of them SHOULD trust each other. Especially not after that. Let them stay on separate teams and never speak to each other outside of necessity again. I'm perfectly fine with that.

But if someone did what Steve did to Tony to me, I don't care if they're a co-worker or a random stranger to me, that is something I am never forgiving. You don't get to hide my parent's murder, from me and apparently everyone else, and expect me to feel anything but disgust for you afterwards.

SA

Drat. I hate it when I forget to close an italics tag. :(

It happens. One spiky boi without a friend can ruin your whole day. Or, well. Comment.

Lying is my big nope-out, too. It was like that when I was a child and it's still like that 40 years later. And people always treat me like I'm super weird because of that. It seems that to a majority of people lying is just not a big deal.

Yeah but on him it was bangarang

In this case my loyalty kink and my lying squick are warring with each other, and the hate I have for lying wins by a large margin.

And in the end, Steve didn't exactly help Bucky by keeping quiet.

Considering how violently and horribly Tony reacted, I'd say Steve was right to think that the hunch/hint he got from a villain (not a direct confirmation, remember) was not something he needed to immediately share.

Considering how he reacted after just watching his parents be murdered in front of him, you mean? On video, sure, but still in front of him when he'd had absolutely no reason to suspect it. I'm pretty sure in all the time Steve knew he could have come up with a situation where a) Tony had some lead up, b) Tony didn't have to watch it happen and c) where the unwilling weapon the murderers used, the face he's just watched murder his mother, wasn't standing right there.

All that aside, the fact that the family of victim might react violently is not an excuse to just never mention the fact that someone was murdered. Of course they're going to react violently. Their family was murdered. You still don't get to just keep it a secret because it's easier for you if you don't have to deal with that. Steve went to fucking war once upon a time. Cowardice is not an excuse to lie and cover up a murder in order to avoid potential violence.

That would certainly solve the global population crisis as I don't think I know even one person who has never done something they'very had to apologise for.

It's all such a fucking mess. :(

We need a second referendum.

I'm about to be able to decorate for the first time and I have decided that the focus of my home is going to be cosy, inviting and homely.

Uh, so I've decided to use details from the Gryffindor Common Room set from the movies as my main inspiration. Just, you know, adjusted from castle to house.

I'm pretty sure if you find out that somebody has been murdered, you do in fact have an obligation to mention it. Pretty much as soon as you find out about it. You don't get to keep that one under your hat.

Legally speaking, sure. Otherwise, that is pretty rigid thinking.

If you know that telling is going to screw over someone close to you, possibly get them killed, especially someone you know is innocent, would you tell? Or would you find some other way to handle it?

Granted, two years is a long time, and I think Steve might have come up with the words to break the news to Tony, but considering both their histories, I kind of understand why he didn't.

probably the employer?

what kinda question is that

I don't think it's fair to dismiss Steve's reasons as "because it's easier." Why do you think it was easier for him? Why do you think his actions are cowardice?

Then you tell them that your friend is innocent. You show them the evidence of what was done to him. You stand up and fight for your friend, but you do it honestly. When it's other people's secrets he's fine with that. He threw all of Hydra's secrets to the wind, let the consequences fall where they would, even when doing so meant all of SHIELD's secrets and the secrets of everybody they'd ever investigated or blackmailed or protected went with them. He stood up for the truth then. But as soon as the consequences have a face he knows, suddenly he's a coward? Suddenly secrets are fine again, and murders are something we can just sweep under the rug? HYDRA's murders? Of a man who was his friend and an innocent woman? What the fuck happened, Mr I-can-do-this-all-day? Or is it just easy to be honest when it's someone else paying the price?

He lied. He perpetuated the cover-up of two murders HYDRA had committed, one of them the murder of a friend. He did so in the face of that man's son. When he could have stood. When he could have stood up for Bucky, stood up for Howard, stood up against what HYDRA did to them both. But he didn't. He fucking didn't. Because for the first time in 70 years his choices had consequences that were personal to him, and he fucking caved because of it. He said nothing. He let the murder of Howard and Maria Stark stand.

Jesus, Steve. Jesus. "Sometimes my friends don't tell me things." Jesus.

Man, I'm sorry that Steve never found the right time to tell his coworker "hey an evil Nazi ghost uploaded to a computer in a military bunker implied while openly taunting me that my brainwashed friend MIGHT have been forced to kill your dad (who he was also friends with) while being mindcontrolled and intermittently frozen over the last 70 years. I would have told you sooner but there was an evil cult taking over the government and threatening to kill millions of people (including you), so that kinda came first."

Also, I'm curious what your opinion is on Peter Quill's actions in Infinity War.

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