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Not where the roles are hardset (and personally as a lesbian my relationships have never felt to have a top/bottom dynamic, though I think of dom/sub being different than topping/bottoming so I’m not counting that)and any preferences I do have are completely based on how hot I find a character topping to be

So scroll past.

Like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mday-AmPXg

Okay, I seem to have a different definition of railroading to other people? I assume that railroading is when you wall off other options than the ones you want players to take, or you punish them for going off the beaten path. Last session:
- Players could go to the house or not (I *did* tell them I'd cry if they didn't). They went to the house.
- Players could go where they liked in and around the house. All they were told was that it'd be nice if they didn't get in the way of the staff. They sat in the living room.
- Players could talk to a number of characters, and a couple went straight in and spoke to them. They shuffled through the conversations I started, and then went back to doing nothing much.
- Players were shown to their rooms for the night. One player investigated his room, found the laundry chute, and got another player to magically lock it. None of the other players thought to look for any other secret doors.
- Dinner was served. Players were invited to dinner, but they had the option to skip, ask for dinner to be brought to their rooms, go bother the staff - I didn't give them a dot pointed list of options, but I think I made them reasonably clear.
- Players went to dinner. Some of them spoke to the other people at dinner, some of them didn't.
- The guy who was made to get murdered, got murdered. The players were perfectly free to go "Wow, WTF" and go sit in their rooms for the rest of the night, eyes on the doors and weapons in hand. They decided to round up and threaten the dead man's family.
- After Zone of Truth didn't give them any answers, they went looking for a secret tunnel. They found a secret tunnel. Yaaaaaaaay.
I'm just... how the fuck am I supposed to provide a story without being accused of railroading? At this point I legitimately do not know!

Oh, and since I was obviously unclear - no, they did not roleplay amongst themselves. They "roleplayed" sitting in a room in complete silence, for two hours. A servant brought in snacks. They ate the snacks. They continued to sit in silence. Not much I can do with that.

But that's a stylistic choice, not something inherent to m/m sex.

Why not just watch it together?

UPDATE: Just got another message from him that he wants an answer
Can't help but think that's pretty fucking rude, given it's been less than two days since a message it took him five days to send
Increasingly tempted to tell him to stick it

I haven't read the books, but enjoyed the film a lot. It's a bit of a typical rom com but I still loved it. I could tell a lot of the characters had their personalities/involvement in the story shortened, but that tends to happen. It didn't affect the story for me. The actors were great with what was given to them.

But this definitely indicates to me that I will read the books after all the movies are released. I nitpick too much if I read a book before I see a movie, and a lot of times it affects my enjoyment of a book. It usually only happens if I read the book first.

I think you'd be in the right fwiw

Absolutely! I assumed they meant "m/m ships" specifically to mean ships in fandom

I have a family member who never pulls their weight, only ever contributes to problems, has horrible hygiene, and lacks empathy for others.

I wish we weren't related every single day. I think I'd be glad if they died.

I feel you, OP. I go through stages of writing fics, and I only ever wrote fics in really small fandoms. However, I've written fics that I've never shared with anyone. Just silly little drabbles of stories I want that I know no one else will give me. Maybe at least give that a go? Don't feel like you're incapable of writing a fic just because you don't think you are a good writer. Even just writing it script style with characters speaking to each other is easy enough to write, especially if the ships/pairs you like are in film or tv fandoms. The point of writing fan fics, IMO, is for you to enjoy it. It's not so much about what other people will say about it.

I did one whole box of packing. At least it's something I guess.

"Also, murder hobo-ing is often a sign of the characters being bored of the story."

Big, fat, NOPE.

If you follow any major D&D community, stories like this about players like this are extremely commonplace. It's never because they're bored. Some players are just people that want to murderhobo and treat D&D like they would a hack'n'slash video game. Because it's a "game"! That's what they do. They're the heroes so they're automatically the good guys and if the DM tells them they're evil for threatening innocent people, they call the DM a dick for ruining their fun.

If you haven't seen them, this user has posted stories about their group before, and nothing about this group sounds like it's either a good group or a good match for them. When you set up a scenario and the players' idea of RP is to sit there and literally do nothing for hours, there's not much you can do with that. If D&D is a two way story building activity, only one side is doing the building, and the other side accuses them for railroading for it, that's not fair.

I like my glasses frames and I don't want to look for a new pair but they're getting a bit worn out.

You don't have a different definition of railroading, you said "I forced the story along since none of the players were doing shit", and we took that at face value.

As for how to deal with that sort of situation in the future, if your players aren't biting at the NPC interactions and aren't riffing off each other for a social scene and aren't looking for clues, either put the murder* earlier than you'd intended, or if the murder has to occur at a specific time, give your players one last chance to engage ("okay, anywhere else you want to explore/anyone else you want to talk to" can cover a lot of ground) and skip ahead to the action. Don't marry yourself to a specific sequence or approach - that is a form of railroading, if a much softer one than "you have no choice but to storm the castle", and will just frustrate you and your players both. Flexibility is probably the most important trait for a GM, and sometimes that means throwing half your planned encounters out the window because no one's biting and you don't want them to sit around with their thumbs up their butts for the whole session.

If you want them to have some piece of information - there are secret doors, the stars are wrong, the butler isn't breathing, whatever - contrive of a way to give it to them if they don't happen to look for the right thing. Passive perception scores are an absolute godsend, in my experience, because it means you can nudge your players into realizing something's up, which might prompt them to speak with those NPCs in more depth or explore their surroundings more thoroughly after all. Or it might not, and you'll have to skip ahead anyway. Players are weird.

(Players are also weird in the opposite direction. I've wound up inventing a new villain wholecloth before because my players have fixated on Random Flavor NPC A for reasons I could not fathom and would not be budged.)

*substitute "murder" for any other "next step in the plot" as necessary

The bees of Notre Dame survived the fire and that's the only information I needed to get me through this day.

A cynical optimist?

I don't trust people at all, pretty much ever. I assume everyone is out to fuck me over all the time. But I also think that 99.99% of everybody are genuinely good people who are trying to do good things. And I know that our world and society is getting better and better every year in virtually every measurable way. And I do my best to be as nice to everyone as I can, even people I hate, because for the most part that kindness has been returned to me and I've met a lot of really wonderful people because of it.

But that doesn't mean I trust any of them at all, because I have no way of knowing which of those really nice wonderful people is secretly a fucking asshole (or which asshole is secretly really nice and awesome, for that matter.)

You have never known the pleasure of letting a few years pass until you've basically forgotten it and then reading one of your own stories like someone custom wrote the perfect story for you? 'Cause it's beyond awesome.

IAWTP

Same. It's not an easy task but someone's gotta do it.

Is it over 9000?

WE ARE THE NAVY BLUES! THE OLD DARK NAVY BLUES! WE'RE THE TEAM THAT NEVER LETS YOU DOWN! WE'RE THE ONLY TEAM OLD CARLTON KNOWS! WITH ALL THE CHAMPIONS THAT THEY SEND US, WE'LL KEEP OUR END UP! AND THEY'LL KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN PLAYING AGAINST THE FAMOUS OLD DARK BLUES~!!!!

Yessss~!!! Carlton won!!! Woooo-!!!

If you're otherwise socially well-adjusted, trust me: people won't care if you're into some nerdy things. In fact, I bet you'd be surprised by how many other people around you are into the same things you are.

TBH I envy women confident enough to dress like that. I've always wished I could build up the courage to do so. Some bras are cute I want to show them off.

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