[ SECRET POST #630 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #630 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

CITY STUFF → http://lolbuttsex.myminicity.com

Pssst, you guys should go vote for us here! Us being technophile, mammaria, and ironicbonds in T2, telecast, databomb and tacky_tramp in T3, and vociferocity in T1 (did I get all the F!S people? If I missed you, tell me!) -- and anyone else you find interesting, too. Yes, anyone is allowed to vote, so there's no need to feel bad about not participating or anything.

tl;dr: LET'S BREAK SOME POLLS.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #090.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[arwydd.livejournal.com]

113 - I hope you're right. Oh god, do I hope you're right! XD

124 - LOLOL

Yay for influx of House secrets! (Even bigger YAY for season 5 - even though it's already moved me to tears ;_;)

#142

[hako-neko.livejournal.com]

142. I feel the same way, only with Marvel comics and Stargate instead of Star Trek.

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[pink-rain.livejournal.com]

makes me so sad because i have friends like that who are in that position with myself; and I am also on that side of the mirror. it hurts so bad... i hope you can find a way to tell themthat you care them more than just fandom wise. it would mean so much to them i know it <3

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[snowmin.livejournal.com]

I am slightly disturbed. ....but totally amused.

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[oceanica.livejournal.com]

142 - "I want them to stop liking what THEY like and start liking what I like!"

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[chuuni.livejournal.com]

LOL THIS WINS. I shall keep it in mind if I ever want to write smut.

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[evil-laugher.livejournal.com]

I TOTALLY AGREE

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[writinchica2k.livejournal.com]

PWentz, is that you?

Re: 122

[neviditelny.livejournal.com]

I thought the exact same thing!

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[pwnmastersaurus.livejournal.com]

*FLAILS* <3

LotF slash is AMAZINGGGGG. And Roger ftw. 8D 8D 8D 8D

Not Secret #2

[ali-wildgoose.livejournal.com]

<3

Just <3

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[velvetalchemist.livejournal.com]

126: He was the only reason I ever watched One Piece. Oh, and the few episdodes i caught with Luffy's older brother. Yup. Only two reasons.

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[soledad-moon.livejournal.com]

Between this and the KARE 11 secret from many moons ago, I'm starting to wonder about Minneapolis, specifically what's in the water (and if I should stop drinking it).

[elfinpiper.livejournal.com]

132. xD I can never get over Will Ferrell as Watson. That might just kill me.

142. SPOCKARAMA

145. You can have your Roger/Simon as long as I get my Ralph/Piggy. *shifty*

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[lokichan2004.livejournal.com]

It all makes perfect sense now! XD

[pavonine.livejournal.com]

109. I... I kind of adore this secret. Because it has Beecher. In makeup. And I remember that.

He's just a sweet transvestite...

Also, I adore that look too. But I'm not pale enough to wear it. :-(

112. Hearing Sarah Chalke speak German just rules. But I think I love her speaking French more.

118. He looks like Count Rugen from The Princess Bride.

122. I don't exactly ship two of my good friends, but I do think that they'd make a totally adorable lesbian couple. Very high fluff content there.

124. I'm still amazed that Neil Perry rose from the dead and actually became a doctor.

125. I've seen a few of these threads on /b/. They're quite humorous.

137. SO I HERD U HAET MUDKIPZ

145. Roger/Simon? o.O Talk about polar opposites. I'm still convinced Ralph and Jack had something going on.

157. I agree with you on liking HBC's portrayal over Patti LuPone's, but my favorite production is Hearn and Lansbury's.

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[crystal-lemons.livejournal.com]

122. Oh honey I slashed my best friend Brandon with his BF Matt cause they had constant sleepovers and happily went shoe shopping together. Brandon did the dumb ass thing and got married. Poor thing’s miserable now and I believe he now goes to Matt for consolation and snuggles. I have known these boys almost 10 years now… they have been my RL OTP XD. I should be absolutely ashamed of myself. Yet, like you, I regret nothing.

140. OMG YOU TOO??? I HAVE NEVER FIGURED IT OUT!! I even like some of her songs and will rock them out. But as soon as I hear her name I’m like ^~^. Like I feel sorry for the poor girl because of me O_o’

141. I felt the same about the Gravitation fandom when it came to America cause I‘d been watching it for YEARS before it ever got popular. So, in a way, you and I are the same. But reading this made me wanna go “Oh yay, so you’ve been a loser longer than everyone else. Bravo.”

I only say it because I thought the exact same thing about myself when I realized I’d started feeling that way about Gravi. ^^’ True Gravi’s no where near as epic as Death note… and I’m not trying to seriously bash you… it just made me laugh a bit cause I know how it feels XD. I thought maybe I'd pass it along thinking maybe you'd laugh a little too XD

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[seer-seer.livejournal.com]

I think the universe would end.

AND IT WOULD BE AWESOME.

[inner-ch1ld.livejournal.com]

112. I KNOW, RIGHT?

122. I hate the straight girls that fangirl/are in love with the gay boys at work. I thought I would never have to see that once I got out of high school. WTF, SOCIETY?

144. Mmmm Tyler. (i'd hit pitt and nortan, no quesition.)

157. I love that she took voice lessons to be in the movie because she loved the chaacter so much.

159. never seen the stage show but I agree.

[(Anonymous)]

124. That and Swing Kids were films I watched over and over again when I was growing up. Seeing RSL on House was so different... I suppose I'm your opposite.

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[funnythat.livejournal.com]

YES.

It's hypnotising.

Re: 123

[callmejude.livejournal.com]

Isn't it? Usually, I don't take notice in the way people eat (or if I do, it's normally disgust), but there's just something about the way he chews or something. I don't know. XD

-OP

[neviditelny.livejournal.com]

Dear 122:

Don't feel weird or ashamed! I did this same thing when I was in high school. I wrote fic about it. I wrote comics about it! I involved friends in writing fic and comics about it! I mean, I was in marching band for four years with lots of cute boys that were constantly touching each other. THE SLASH WROTE ITSELF.

Dear 145:

I explained how everything happened in Lord of the Flies as a result of Jack being madly obsessed/in love/hate with Ralph. There was lots of slash. I can't remember it all right now. I explained it to my English teacher. I drew him diagrams.

[misscube.livejournal.com]

125. ...THANKS FOR RUINING MINE TOO. XD;; Not really, but I never... thought of it that way... *shudder*

149. I did that too. I think it's Goh-doh?

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[kazokuhouou.livejournal.com]

141. Hah, I watched the movies first too. Then I read the manga and was devastated to find out Soichiro died.

#154

[(Anonymous)]

Probably tl;dr, but....
I'm not familiar with this fandom, so obviously, I'm also not familiar with the artist in question, but if they said 'references used', it seems like they acknowledged that they used a photograph for all/part of their drawing.

There seems to be a feeling in fandom that tracing is 'omg bad!' but in actuality, in the 'real' world -- professionally, that is -- graphic artists and illustrators often trace to get their base drawing. That's one of the legitimate uses for copyright-free stock art images. There are even tracing file reference books like this one: http://www.amazon.com/Entourage-Tracing-Architects-Interior-Design/dp/0070089442, for architectural illustrators. Other graphic artists trace, but only from pictures they took themselves. Time is money; why spend hours and hours trying to eyeball figures and hope that you don't screw up the anatomy when you can quickly trace existing figures? And in fandom, where the artist is doing it for free, just for fun, even more so.

Seems like a lot of people in fandom have a tendency to try to view fanart as 'fine art', but some (not all) fanartists approach it more from the viewpoint of an illustrator -- that is, they just want to visually tell a fannish story with fannish characters and if they can accomplish that by starting with a stock image, more power to them. Fanartists that work without reference photos, and that do beautiful work will always be awesome, of course. But for those whose knowledge of anatomy is less than awesome, I'd rather they use reference photos, actually. Makes for better looking artwork, and they may learn something in the process. Tracing bodies in photographs, in a variety of poses, is actually not a bad way to learn some basics of anatomy that can then be strengthened by drawing from life.

#154 OP

[(Anonymous)]

As a matter of fact the artist did not state that they used references for most of their pictures - only a few specific ones that were non-stock photos (I'm assuming) of them and their friends. Other pictures had no such "reference" label and when they were praised for their ability to draw proportions, perspective and poses they have never once corrected their admirers.

I have nothing against using references but tracing every line in that photo (for example) down to the pasta and vegetables on the cutting board (not to mention just about every feature of the people aside from their hair) is outrageous. This is made worse by the fact that about all of this artist's work is just sketchy lineart. No coloring and nada effort save for their direct trace.

[(Anonymous)]

May the lord Jesus Christ have mercy on your soul.