[ SECRET POST #4672 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4672 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

the TEA jumped out!

[hey_hey_hey]

Why is it hard for people to admit that the Harry Potter books were good but fluffy and shallow children's books.

[(Anonymous)]

Because the last 4 books aren't fluffy children's books. I'm not defending them, I think there's lots of problems with them and they're generally worse than the first 3 books which basically are children's books. It's just not a good take.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really get the emphasis here. Fluffy and shallow are qualities found in plenty of books not intended for children, and the later books in the series hardly qualify as children's books (though shallow they remain).

[(Anonymous)]

i've had people here try to tell me that Harry Potter is not for children.

i laughed but it seems some people are generally confused. it is clearly a story for children and teens/young adults.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because it feels like a disingenuous argument people usually trot out to counter criticisms of the writing. The series certainly began as children's books. They did not end as being books purely for children, as the length, themes and seriously meandering plots will attest.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE. So many of these flaws people love to seize on are really just narrative and stylistic choices that make sense once you realize the primary audience the story was being written for.

The way people expect Harry Potter to be written with the adult perspective in mind makes me realize how much of a specific skill it is to be able to write children's lit well. To be able to understand the internal logic of a young reader and write in a way that connects with that reader and the way they understand the world.

[(Anonymous)]

Because everyone remembers the things they read or watched as a child as being far more mature than it was.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, those fluffy children's books about... child abuse and date rape and torture and ethnic cleansing and the government getting taken over by a totalitarian dictatorship and watching your friends die before your very eyes and mindraping your own parents into forgetting you exist.

Those children's books.

They might be shallow, but that's a criticism that's being made here, which you and others like you are trying to handwave with "BuT iT's FoR kIdS", like kids are oblivious to being fed bullshit anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

because adults who like kids media are goddamn insufferable and get insulted when you point out that something they liked was aimed at kids.

i'd say HP went up into YA towards the end of it because it's target 10 yr old demo aged up with the books, but that still doesn't put the intended reader-age much above 17. it's fine if you enjoyed the books as an adult, they were fun and i look back on them fondly, but they weren't overly complex or deep because at the end of the day their target audience was relatively young.

[(Anonymous)]

I noticed a trend where HP fans want it both ways. It’s not for kids because “it’s deep and talks about morality hdu insult my intelligence by implying my children’s book series has no nuance!!” Conversely if you criticize its poor thought out world-building or any weakness of the writing and fishy things it becomes “they’re books for kids it’s not supposed to be deep!!! Let me have fun!”

Harry Potter is as deep as the average shounen anime yet I never see any anime fans get up in arms and try to argue Naruto/Bleach/One Piece/Dragon Ball Z is some bastion of good storytelling.

[(Anonymous)]

Why does that give them a pass to be bad? There are some bloody great children's books.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds pretty true-to-life to me...

[morieris]

"Harry apparently never told his children about Slytherin war heroes."

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He.

He NAMED his child after one of them??? "You were named after one of the bravest men I ever knew?" While there's no canon evidence to support that he told Albus SEVERUS about it, he probably DID?

I don't disagree with the rest or the idea behind this (Heck, I'd read about another evil wizard coming to power when the gang is all old), but uh?

[(Anonymous)]

funny how harry's son is named after a slytherin but still doesn't want to be sorted to that house because slytherins apparently still have cooties.

it's like nobody learned anything.

[(Anonymous)]

"Hey son I've presumably lived with your whole life, I know you have a terrible fear of being sorted into Slytherin (a fear which obviously arose in a perfect void) so let me tell you about The Good Slytherin, who I have clearly told you about many times before."

...or not.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree but it's basically part of the background of the genre and also Rowling's own worldview and political views, right? Radical, revolutionary change is not exactly a part of the political imagination of the British boarding school genre, and it's also entirely at odds with Rowling's soft-center Labourism. I think a radical political imagination would improve the series but it's also pretty alien to where the whole thing comes from, unfortunately.

[tabaqui]

The worst thing about this right there is....they look so DRAB. They look like they all wear hairnets to work and live in dingy little flats and never, ever, go farther than the corner shops.

Just...they're WIZARDS. Why can't they look...wizard-y? Meh.

[(Anonymous)]

That's one of my biggest complaints about the movies, honestly. Everyone goes on about Harry's eyes being the wrong color but nobody seems to care they're all in jeans at school.

[(Anonymous)]

They spent all the money on making Voldemort's death unnecessarily sparkly (in direct opposition to the book) and didn't have any left to pay a costume designer, so everyone went down to the nearest charity shop with the change they had in their pockets.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL, I always think the same thing when I see this pic. Poor Ginny got some serious middle aged mom hair.

[(Anonymous)]

Between the drab and the weird ageing effects, they look like they're in a high school production of Our Town.

[(Anonymous)]

There's only going to be another Voldemort of Grindelwald if JK Rowling decides to make a sequel series. Otherwise we can assume everything is fine forever because it's a story and stories don't have to follow the real course of human history, and generally can't if they're meant to have a feel-good ending like HP.

[(Anonymous)]

Just like normal human society.