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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-16 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #4759 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4759 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
People are going to talk shit about this but some fandom spaces are very hive-mind and hostile about trans stuff. It's made me avoid F/F and lesbian fandom spaces. It's very retro. It feels like we've looped back again. Welcome to 2020. Lesbians are evil if they don't want to suck dick and radical feminists deserve to be punched.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I expect that's because those people disagree with your views and largely regard them as an expression of bigotry.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hi terf.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT But that doesn't seem helpful. Transphobes aren't automatically TERFs; I'd advice caution about swinging that term around too much. It just gives them ammo to pretend it's being used as some magic phrase that shuts down "concerned" people.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
They'd say the same thing about "transphobes" if that was the commonly used term

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
True. But, there is actually a significant difference that I think it is important. Being a radical feminist that hates trans people is different than being a regular bigot. The ideology and motivations aren't the same. It's like calling all fingers thumbs because some fingers are thumbs.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Bullshit. Basically no trans people are saying lesbians should suck dick, and you can find crazy people in any group. It's just that when it's trans people that's conveniently projected onto the entire group as an excuse to slag them off. It's also disingenuous to pretend that Trans Exclusive Radical Feminists are the only kind of radical feminist.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
So people don't say excluding transwomen from you're dating pool makes you a terf or gays and lesbians should try to get over their aversion to vagina and penises? You people are straight up gaslighting us now.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
The tragedy of the internet is that any opinion, no matter how ill-conceived or marginal, is easily available.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Plus fucking one.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so like... maybe you can explain this to me, because I'm a lesbian that 100% has transwomen in my dating pool and I literally don't understand why that isn't the most common. Is it really so ubiquitous that people have a genuine aversion to the opposite genitals? Most of my gay male friends joke about it, sure, but they're not serious for the most part, and I just... I don't get it? What I'm attracted to is femininity, and I suppose I just don't think of genitals as inherently masculine or feminine. I don't know. Are people really that put-off? I'm not trying to be an asshole, I swear, I just really, really don't get it.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. A lot of lesbians don't want to date AMABs whether they have a dick, a girldick or an inverted dick.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be curious to see how a large group of people would answer this. Personally, as a straight cis woman, the idea of having a sexual partner with a vagina lacks appeal for me. It's not a squick, and maybe I could get into it if I was in love with their personality - never say never and all that. But if I have the option to select for men with dicks, I'm going to do that.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Not everyone, obviously, but yes there are genuinely gay people who are anywhere from not attracted to to actively repulsed by the opposite genitalia. I'm one of them - I wouldn't run screaming from a dick, but they do absolutely nothing for me, and I want to do absolutely nothing to them.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm bisexual. I prefer women and my dating history has been almost exclusively women, but I've had a few guys here and there as sexual partners and am currently dating one and the sex is great. In a lot of ways, because I've had sex with a number of people from both genders, I really don't feel like it "matters". At the end of the day, the genitals stopped really making a difference to me, the user manual is a little difference but the parts feel more or less the same under a different brand. I'm really more interested in the person. (Not necessarily personality, though I wish I could claim that, but the overall aesthetic and beauty plus personality and sexual chemistry.) Men, women, the difference feels small to me.

Now that all being said... I've never experienced sexual attraction to a trans person. I'm not opposed in theory, but it's just how it is. I perfectly believe that in the right scenario with the right person it could happen. But that might be more a matter of principle than my body's sexual orientation because so far, it just hasn't happened.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I'm a straight woman and vaginas don't do it for me. I know, I've experimented. It doesn't matter whether that vagina belongs to a woman or a man, I have zero sexual interest in vaginas, period. I wouldn't call it an aversion, it's just that I have no interest in doing anything sexual with someone with a vagina because that particular genital configuration doesn't turn me on at all. I need a dick in my sex to be interested.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
No, they don't. Attraction is subjective and personal. People only say that transwomen are women and that saying otherwise makes you a transphobe. Not being personally attracted to them is not a problem. Saying that no lesbian could every be attracted to any transwoman would be transphobic. Saying that people attracted to transwomen aren't people being attracted to women would be transphobic. Not being personally attracted to them is not transphobic.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Being attracted exclusively to one sex, we're not talking about gender, isn't subjective, it's an orientation. People don't wake up one day and think "I'll do cock because the person attached to it says they're a woman." This shit reminds me of when people said being gay was just a choice and called it a sexual preference.

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Your twitter circle must be exhausting.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
The people who say that can fuck off, yeah, but don't project that onto all trans people. Or is it fine to hate all straight people because a minority of them think gay people just haven't found the right (opposite sex) yet and need some straight sex? It's the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well you are getting slammed already, but yeah when the flinging around of terf calms down and people feel more confident of the world being a safer space for gender non confirming .
/ trans, we are going to need to have a serious conversation about how being a lesbian is a sexuality not a lifestyle.

Being a lesbian is also about having sex, good loving sex and also kinky sex and etc with the set of genitials that turn you on.

And telling people they are terfs so invalidates their lives as people sexually attracted to vaginas and not a penis.

Honestly some of the conversations about lesbians needing to accept all women just sounds like the very old days of being told being a lesbian was a lifestyle. Just learn to love dick?

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You're making a lot of generalizations here.

1. That all lesbians are particular about genitals. Some are, yes. Vaginas are great! But loving sex with other women does not necessitate two vaginas (hell, look at dildos. Fun for everyone!)

2. That all transwomen have penises. Some do. Some have had bottom surgery, of varying degrees, even. Some you wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all.

3. That all transwomen who do have penises would want it to be involved in sex. Definitely not true. Different strokes for different folks (literally). For some, dysphoria makes it too uncomfortable, and they prefer other kinds of sex.

Nobody is saying that being a lesbian is some lifestyle choice and I don't know where you're getting that from other than repeated rhetoric about what "everyone" thinks and does in their lives.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-17 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Some gay men aren't particular about genitals, same as some straight men and straight women; but most people (wow!) who are attracted to women like (get this) vagina. It seems to be only lesbians who get this 'well, it's HEARTS not PARTS, you're not an icky terf, are you?' attitude; I don't see transmen out there trying to persuade gay dudes that they owe them sex and c'mon, you might like it! It's almost like this is people raised as men acting like...well, men.

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