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⌈ Secret Post #4857 ⌋

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Comments

Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

What are your thoughts on bombing Dresden in WWII, or what Saint Olga of Kiev did to the Drevlians after they killed her husband?

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[philstar22]

Personally, I'm not a pacifist, but I do hold to a view relatively close to the Just War theory. I think there are basic rules of morality when it comes to war as well as rules as to what wars are and aren't justified. One of the basic rules of morality is you don't target civilians, ever, and you don't target places where there are civilians with weapons you know won't discriminate between soldiers ans civilians. People who haven't chosen to be a part of your conflict are not appropriate targets, period.

Obviously, I wasn't there in either of those circumstances and I also don't know the complete history of either. But you can be the good guys, on the right side, and still do the wrong thing. You can do the wrong thing for the right reasons. I personally don't think targeting civilians is ever justified.

I'm also someone who firmly believes that dropping the atomic bombs were wrong and we should have done it another way. Maybe in terms of numbers less people were killed. Maybe less Americans were killed. But we killed innocent civilians rather than soldiers who had signed up for this. Objectively wrong in my opinion.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[philstar22]

And for the record, I'm not expecting perfect morality from fictional characters. But Dany didn't need to burn King's Landing to the ground. She could have destroyed the Lannister's and still avoided killing the poor and innocent who had no choice in anything and nothing to do with any of the wrongs against her. Actively choosing to do what she did, and doing it with such clear joy, was an active choice to take a destructive, no-holds-barred campaign of conquest and destruction on the whole world.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

A better analogy would be dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Which was wrong.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

The Germans deserved it more.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

What does that even mean? Deserved to be destroyed by an atomic bomb?

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

Dresden wasn’t bombed with an a-bomb

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

No shit. I said that a better analogy to what Dany did would be the atomic bombs being dropped on Japan.

Some rando said "Germans deserved it more". Deserved WHAT more? I was talking about the atomic bomb so I can only assume that.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

You brought up Japan as a comparison after Daenerys’s attack was compared to the bombings of Dresden (which the writers actually admitted was their inspiration).

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. I was arguing that the atomic bombs are a better comparison. I don't give a shit what the writers say. They are morons.

Dany basically nuked a whole city AFTER she had won the battle. There was no reason for her to do it. The same goes for the atomic bombs. The allied victory over Japan was a certainty. There were no good reasons to destroy it. The amount of deaths were even similar (25,000 in Dresden, 200,000+ in Japan, and around 300,000 in King's Landing).

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[philstar22]

What the fuck? German children deserved it? No one should have been atomic bombed. I really hope you never end up in charge of anything.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

https://youtu.be/CRbqAJdRMjs

And the original comparison was the bombing of Dresden, nothing about a-bombs

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[philstar22]

Okay, the comment appeared to be in response to the A-bomb comment. Still a horrible, horrible comment. Children do not deserve to be murdered by adults, ever. Fuck anyone who thinks so. Yes, these children were spouting horrific racist things taught to them by their parents. They don't know any better. Doesn't give adult soldiers the right to murder them. Ever. Objectively wrong. Anyone who thinks they do is not someone I want to ever meet.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

You know that many of those kids really had no grasp of what they were doing?

Also that there were many children who had no idea what was going on? Can you tell me what the babies and toddlers did that was so mean?

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

But this is how human morality must be! No one is innocent! No one!

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[philstar22]

Not sure if you are being serious or not. But yes, children are innocent. Certainly at a level where adults don't ever have the right to murder them.

And frankly, you want to be the "good guys," you don't do things like this. If everyone acts the same and the only difference is which side you are on, what's the point? Why are we even fighting?

WWII is one of the few wars that needed to be fought. There was a clear right and wrong side, unlike most wars. But the good side did a whole lot of really awful things, and we shouldn't look back on those moments in history with pride. We should learn from them and try not to repeat them.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I was being sarcastic. It's... disturbing how some of these people think. There's too much fanaticism these days.

Good posts about WWII. I like reading your posts.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

I can only assume this Dany fan must be ultra Christian. The kind that thinks babies deserve to die for the sins of their parents. And who gets wet when she reads about the war crimes the Red Army committed against Germany as the moved towards Berlin.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

no, the Christians were the ones persecuting the Jews.

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

So every thing else about you is correct then? So, how sad were you when /r/watchpeopledie was banned?

Re: Question for the Dany critics

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

IKR?

A literal Disney princess ❤️

[(Anonymous)]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/60/05/32600580c6e00cd90edc2ee1001065e5.jpg

Re: A literal Disney princess ❤️

[(Anonymous)]

Cersei!

Re: A literal Disney princess ❤️

[(Anonymous)]

No it's Saint Olga of Kiev