[ SECRET POST #4895 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4895 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

12. https://i.imgur.com/YygMb8P.png

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, hard disagree. I think it's clearly the best movie. Not that it doesn't have flaws but.... I mean, have you seen the other movies?

[philstar22]

I think 4 was the best personally. 3 was stylistically okay, but it was a bad adaption. 1 and 2 were the best adaption-wise but they weren't good as movies. 4 found the right balance of movie to adaption.

[(Anonymous)]

Admittedly, I only watched films 1-5, but I thought the 2nd was the best. Faithful adaptation, while also being more interesting and exciting than the book it was based on.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the movie was okay. I appreciated what it was trying to do. It wasn't perfect and some things got changed, but it wasn't crazy irresponsible like the fourth movie.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd ride movie Sirius like a prized steed.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the age thing with Sirius and Remus is sort of unfortunate and I get not being into them if you're not into older fellas.

But if you are into older fellas, then yeah, definitely not a problem lol

[philstar22]

I agree, but not for the same reasons. It was stylistically an okay movie, though not my cup of tea. But it was a really bad adaption. It just didn't get the story, it didn't even make the story make complete sense on screen, it got some of the key characters wrong (Sirius wasn't adapted well in this one, it wasn't until movie 4 and especially 5 that Sirius really came through), and it just didn't work as an adaption for me.

[(Anonymous)]

There was so much important information just... left out??

[sparklywalls]

PoA was probably my favourite of the films for so long but I actually find I get bored of it when they get to the "do over" part now. I read the books quite late in life and I think the plot-repeat portion is better in print.

Btw reading the books at long last made me realise exactly how much shit the later films just kinda...skip over or ignore? I mean, there were some things I was glad not to have but I'm thinking more that wow the films really screw over the Marauders and also Snape backstories. I can see why some people want a film dedicated just to the Marauders era.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem with the idea of a Marauders movie is the same problem I have with most other new HP content: the list of people that I would trust to make Harry Potter content is probably quite small, and JK Rowling's name is not on it

[(Anonymous)]

Unpopular opinion. Remus and Sirius are not supposed to be hot in PoA. Sirius just got out of Azkaban and Remus is always described as looking exhausted and shabby in the book. I can see Sirius looking better in GoF but they are both supposed to look awful in PoA and only Sirius is implied to have ever been attractive in the books when he was younger as far as I remember.

If it's your ship then you can imagine them as you like, but I don't think canon Remus was ever a hunk and they'd both seen some shit by the time we're introduced to them so they probably aged like milk.

[(Anonymous)]

I was gonna say. Younger, yes, definitely, but 'hotter' will depend on whether you like 'fresh out of the madhouse and living on the streets as a dog' chic, at least in Sirius' case. I always pictured Remus as just sort of tired.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I get being disappointed that the movies didn’t parallel Harry and co. in book seven being only a few years younger than Harry’s parents, the other Marauders, Snape, etc when James and Lily were killed, because casting Rickman as Snape meant everyone had to be older. And I’m not sure the movies would’ve emphasized that parallel even if the actors had been younger.

But I’m always weirded out that the hotness of Sirius and especially Remus was and is such a sore spot; that’s not the point of the characters and wouldn’t make much sense for the reasons you stated.

Actually I get super annoyed when people harp on how an actor isn’t hot enough to play a character unless it’s a plot point because the character is a supermodel or whatever. And I do get mad when ugly characters are played by gorgeous actors, or worse, the adaptation just drops their ugliness as a plot point entirely. Us uggos deserve to see ourselves onscreen too.

[(Anonymous)]

POA is both my favorite book and my favorite movie. It's probably the only one of the books I've read more than twice. With more viewings, the more I find the style is a little much, but after the rather...unadventurous...look and feel of the first two, it was series-reinventing at the time, IMO.

Baby Daniel Radcliffe is pretty bad in all the movies, though, so I can't hold that against this one in particular. And while shallowly, I did have issues with the casting of Sirius and Remus, I've grown to love those choices over time. In the end, the looks didn't matter as much and even grew on me.

[(Anonymous)]

They weren't supposed to be hot.

One was supposed to look a wreck after spending twelve years wasting away in a prison, the other looks like hell because he's dirt poor and has a serious health condition. Why would you assume either of them were hot?

The film wasn't the best ever, especially with the fact that it failed to properly explain the Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs thing, and how Lupin knew about the map, and the werewolf was fucking TERRIBLE. In the top five worst werewolves list, for sure. Looked like a werewhippet. Load of shite.

Also it didn't focus anywhere NEAR enough on the fact that Patronuses take ANIMAL form.

But it's far from the worst film.

I didn't much care for the movie, either.

[(Anonymous)]

It was a bit all over the place, plus the werewolf CGI was really bad, and yeah, they should have been hotter (I have personally never found Gary Oldman very attractive - interesting, yes; attractive, no and I don't think I had seen David Thewlis in anything before that, but I didn't find him attractive), I mean if they wanted to stick with the characters in their forties at the time, there were Mark Strong, Iain Glen, Colin Firth, John Hannah, Hugh Grant, Sean Bean, Hugh Laurie, or Richard E. Grant.

[(Anonymous)]

Quite apart from the fact that both Sirius and Lupin have been through hell at this point - why should they be hot?

[(Anonymous)]

I wonder how many people commenting "why would you expect them to be hot!" are old enough to remember how many people had crushes on Lupin in particular at that time. As I recall, one of the most popular fan castings was Jude Law. Common sense and canon description can't compete against hormonal fantasies.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.
Not necessarily hotter but different.

[(Anonymous)]

About Remus and Sirius... yeah, as much as I love Oldman (and have liked the other guy in the past), I think they were miscast. But now movie Remus has taken over many others' mental image of him, and I had a completely different headcanon.

To me, movie Remus could have looked like David Wenham (aka Faramir in the LOTR trilogy).

Did we get that thing of beauty? Nooooo.

[(Anonymous)]

Quite frankly the problem with David Thewlis is that he didn't look ill /enough/. Britain's famous for gaunt and ill looking actors and Thewlis looked completely healthy no matter how many scars they gave him.

I think styling was also a big issue. Remus Lupin would never have facial hair, not with all his animalistic hangups. I really liked Goldman as Sirius in PoA because he did look like a man who has spent the last decade being tortured and then on the run. But when he cleaned up in OOTP he looked atrocious. A pin suit? Really?

[emmatheslayer]

The best movie for me was half blood prince but i have not read the books and never will so my opinion does not matter much i am sure

[calaidi]

My favorite two books are 3 and 6. Guess which are my least favorite movies? (:

and it's pretty much for the same reasons for both of them: casting & directing decisions I really didn't like, and a misunderstanding of the plot that led to them focusing on the wrong things and leaving out things that were pretty important. And then I also really dislike the whole aesthetic change in POA, and also the random battle at the Burrow in HBP.

ngl, that change in aesthetic that carried through to the rest of the movies is probably my least favorite thing overall. I know a lot of people really liked it, but the aesthetic of the first two movies was so much closer to what I'd personally been imagining :c

[(Anonymous)]

Sigh I'm with you, OP.
I know it's shallow but I always pictured in my head Remus as... yeah,prettier. I pictured him to be tired looking sure but a vulnerable looking pretty boy. Gary Oldman to me has always been good looking so he fit well for Sirius
(I saw a video for new fan casting, say if they were doing a tv series for Harry Potter and Ben Barnes and Tom Hiddleston were respectively cast as Sirius and Lupin. That works for me!)

[(Anonymous)]

While I was also part of the "they should have been hotter" camp, I will agree with some of the comments here -- they should have been looking worn out by the lifestyles they had/were subjected to.

Precluding age, I always envisioned Remus as a Hugh Dancy type -- he is cute (IMO, I wouldn't consider him "hot". Just decently attractive and cute, with an air of vulnerability. He looks like someone running away from his demons -- or like he could play that well.). Santiago Cabrera or Aiden Turner would have been good for Sirius...just Gary Oldman didn't bring that heat. I guess he was fine for it, considering Sirius went through a lot of crap in Azkaban. I just wanted to see the dashing, charming, debonaire man Sirius was (or flashes of it) later.