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As a female millenial, I feel like despite people making fun of us for being immature, I never got a chance to enjoy being young. And now I'm starting to age, and Gen Z is making fun of us for being out of touch while so many people my age I know still don't have the traditional markers of being settled into middle age that Boomers and older GenX have (when you're not dependent on your parents and you get to ignore whether or not teenagers think you're cool).

Also a Millennial (on the older side) and I often wonder if Gen Z mocking us is them trying to cope with the knowledge deep down that what came for us is coming for them too. Let's face it, the idea that you'll be better off (especially financially and later in retirement) than the generations that came before you is pretty much dead at the moment. It's easy to make wisecracks about a 30something renting an overpriced room in a flatshare with other 30somethings when you're still living in your parental home.

But I also think it often isn't that deep and it's young people being young people. Although, I feel a tiny bit deflated sometimes because in my teens I remember looking up to (not mocking) Gen X and rolling my eyes at my parents generation instead, so it does feel like we're getting it from both directions at times.

Speaking as a Gen X person, millennials do get it from both directions because you're a huge generation like the boomers.

Gen X is so comparatively small we had a brief moment of being considered lazy slackers who live in OUR parents' basements before people cared more about what 12 year old Millennials think (and their purchasing power).

"The term Generation X has become a derisive media catchphrase, a snide put-down for those, like me, who were born between 1961 and 1981 -- children of Baby Boomers. This group is, we're told, "numb and dumb," lazy underachievers, apathetic "boomerangers" who slink home to the parental nest after graduating from college, as if being born into an era of reduced economic expectations is a character defect."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/1994/04/03/educating-the-generation-called-x/afd28dcb-ca20-4629-b26f-e665d767a41d/

As an older millennial (I think) with a younger Gen X sibling who liked to pick up articles or books on this topic in the ‘90s, I ended up skimming quite a few, trying to understand what pre-teen me assumed how I was going to be seen one day. One article title partially stuck with me for whatever reason: “Today’s Teens: Dissed, Mythed, and Totally Pissed”. And the teens on the magazine cover looked... angry? sullen? defiant?

Maybe because I couldn’t figure out what “Mythed” was supposed to mean. But also because it felt strange watching my sibling try to navigate this image and slowly becoming aware that somehow my generation was considered somehow different.

those, like me, who were born between 1961 and 1981 -- children of Baby Boomers.

I was born in 61 and most people consider me a Boomer, not the child of Boomers. I’m so confused.

I think it comes from that 'generations' aren't as precise as people think they are.

As a millennial with two GenZ siblings, I think they just see us as we are now and don't realize that when we were growing up, everything said about GenZ's were said about us and then it... didn't happen cuz we got squeezed, insulted, and repeatedly kicked in the a**.
I also think that GenZ parents (some at least) have finally woken up to reality and don't put the Boomer kind of timeline that was expected of Millennials.

Yeah this is really my take on it - the only thing I want out of the generation wars is for Gen Z to understand something of the viewpoint of millenials

And also I want to make sure they know about early-00s millenial culture because a lot of that shit is hilariously bad and I think it deserves to be remembered that way

God, I think of where my Dad (Silent) was at 37 and where my sister (Boomer) was at 37, and here I am at 37 being parasite-millennial lite in my mother's (Silent) basement. Which is where I need to stay if I want to have a savings account healthy enough to weather the slings and arrows of our nightmare economy.

See, maybe it's just because I'm not white, but I genuinely don't understand the amount of contempt a lot of people have for still living with your parents after you graduate. In my culture it's expected that you'll live with your family until you get married, and as long as you're contributing to the household in some way (either paying rent, doing chores and such around the house, or looking after a relative), I don't see why it's a bad thing? It makes no sense to move out right away and blow all of your money on renting an apartment just for yourself.

Some people like freedom and privacy.

Nayrt

I love freedom and privacy but the fucking criminal lack of affordable housing where I love makes that incredibly difficult to achieve and I would prefer there not have been a social stigma around the lengthy time I spent living in my parents house

Live, love, whatever

ayrt

I certainly disagree with the social stigma. Housing and transportation to housing should be a human right.

I like that too, but as a homebody introvert that's easily achievable.

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What's weird is that as I've gotten older I've gotten less crap about it. Probably because as I have gotten older my mom has also gotten older, so people go "oh you're staying at home so your 82-yr-old mom can have her independence". And, like, that's not NOT a factor, but being able to live somewhere nice and also have spending cash is a pretty big one too.

It's really funny how quickly people will change their tune in a situation like that. I currently live with my parents and people are definitely judgmental about it until I tell them that my parents are older and have both had surgeries within the past year and can really use the help around the house.

Then it immediately turns into "oh, what a thoughtful daughter you are to stay at home to help your parents!"

Asian here and while I, too come from a culture where family and community is emphasized, there can be drawbacks from that mindset. The idea that you had to Be Their For Family regardless of how much it hinders with your life because It's Family only works until it doesn't. And this was something I've had implanted in me for decades.

For me, this reached its breaking point last year where I, someone in my 30s, was told to sacrifice a great deal of my life for my parents - even though they would have been fine without me - even though it would have made me incredibly and significantly unhappy, not to mention financially fuck me over. It was a constant, long, arduous battle to get them off my back and though I am currently apartment searching, not living with my parents has been the single best decision I've ever made.

I love my parents, but they warped me in ways I am still recovering from and the best cure for me WAS leaving them. Sometimes living with your parents do not work.

It used to be a marker of independance, is all. The ability to earn a basic income and run one's own household. (That said, it used to be easier to get housing.)

There's kind of... an idea that a young person who stays at home expects to be treated like a child, to have their laundry done by their parents and so forth, and to be slacking off.

I don't think it's true - as you say, contributing to rent and chores is a reasonable thing to do - but that's where the idea comes from.

I feel like all of those are very uniquely American assumptions (both the being a marker of independence part and also the assumption that a young adult living at home will want their parents to take care of them and won't also be working). Living with one's family as an adult is common practice in many cultures and it's seen as no different than living with other adult roommates: you're expected to be working and contributing to the household and just generally behaving like an adult.

You're not wrong - it's totally a white thing, and especially bad in the USA where if you're not FREEEEEEE then you're a loser.

Why would any of that make me more capable of ignoring if teenagers think I'm cool? I can do that without needing an excuse for it because no teen thinks 30 year olds are cool.

Unless it's a celebrity they want to fuck.

For that matter, why would 30 year olds need teens to think they're cool? We have many forms of social capital at our disposal, they just have memes. That's kind of their thing.

Female millennial here, I feel like I never had a really optimistic or carefree time. Going into my teens BAM 9/11, going into college KABOOM 2008. The Z's aren't going to have a better time in life, but I'm not about to start teasing the youths because I feel like I still get it from that side. There's a lot of 'ew 30 year old women' in fandom already, so I know it's coming to the real world. I'm looking forward to flexing all those I-Don't-Give-A-Damn muscles on zoomer teasing that I've packed on from boomer teasing.

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