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⌈ Secret Post #5324 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[tei]

Oh noooo. This is why I can never rewatch this show, I adored it when I was a kid and don’t want to pollute my pure memories

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I like Hugh Laurie a lot, but the character always walks a fine line between abrasive genius and asshole, and my tolerance for asshole characters has gone waaaay down in recent years thanks to U.S. politics.

[(Anonymous)]

I stopped watching House after the ep where he wasn't in pain and was nice to patients for that reason. Means that he can be nice, be a better doctor.

[(Anonymous)]

Pain really fucks you up.

I spent my childhood and teenage years in constant pain and was probably an asshole too tbh. I only realised it ten years or so later, once I got a diagnosis and pain killers that actually worked.

I did relate to him back then, now that I think about it.

Even now, even though I'm much better and can sometimes spend a week with minimal pain, I still can't take media with characters who've got chronic pain or arm issues.

[meadowphoenix]

idk, I think "can" is doing some work there, since pain is the type of signal than can genuinely make it harder to regulate mood. to me that means that maybe he should just do research...from a distance.

[tree_and_leaf]

Yeah, that on the one hand makes me somewhat more sympathetic to him, but also much more sure that he's fundamentally in the wrong job, and he and everyone else would be happier and better off if he was in a research job.

[(Anonymous)]

Your lack of sympathy is disturbing.

[(Anonymous)]

No it isn't. As the anons said above, he's clearly in the wrong job, and there's only so much pain can be an excuse for how he goes about the emotional aspects of the job. It's one thing to not have perfect bedside manner all the time, but House almost never has any to speak of. AYRT is right to criticize him for only treating his patients well when he's not in pain.

And this is coming from someone who's suffered from chronic abdominal pain her entire life, and manages to not be a jackass to everyone all the time. It's not as easy for everyone who also suffers, I understand that. But just because he has chronic pain and doesn't handle it well, doesn't mean everyone has to like or respect him for the way he acts towards people. Especially because many of his patients, naturally, are in the hospital because they're very sick or in pain also. And they don't deserve to be captive to the doctor with the worst attitude in the hospital.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Like, if AYRT had merely said that they didn't care if his assholishness was caused by chronic pain, he was still an asshole and they didn't like him, that would be absolutely valid. But "He's an asshole because he's in pain which means he could choose not to be?" No. No, that is very much NOT what that means. How did they even come to such a horrible take?

[(Anonymous)]

I watched about 8 episodes and decided the show wasn't for me because almost every character annoyed me but I absolutely hated House.

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't a kid when it aired, so I'm hoping I'd still enjoy House even though I haven't seen the show since it went off the air. Bit worried to go and check now.

But I do know what you mean. I had a similar experience with The X-Files. Loved it when I was a kid, but these days conspiracy theories just aren't that fun anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn’t a kid but I did love the early seasons and especially him. But I really don’t think I would now, the world just seems like a crappier place and I don’t have the energy for even a fictional asshole these days.

[tabaqui]

I like/liked House, but the self-righteousness of some of the other characters was a huge turn-off, as was a lot of the preachy crap that got pushed on House.

Yeah, he's a mess, he's an asshole, and in real life, he's putting people in danger. On tv - I had fun. But it's not a show i can/do watch a lot or anything.

[philstar22]

Yup. And I actually thought some of the other characters were worse than House. Cameron was annoying, and then Thirteen was even worse.

[tabaqui]

Omg, yes. They both sucked. Foreman got pretty preachy, too, sometimes, though i respected his character a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a thing for prickly, intelligent assholes who act aloof and indifferent but are full of deep inner turmoil and insecurity. So I might still like him even now. But there's also a distinct chance I wouldn't, because yeah, being insensitive and hurtful because other people are stupid and you're sick of dealing with idiots (or whatever) feels like immature, judgmental bullshit, far more than it used to.

I still love those characters when the narrative recognizes their bullshit as bullshit, recognizes that they're a bit pathetic underneath is all, and challenges them to change. But when the narrative instead seems to uncritically glory in how much smarter and cooler and better they are than all the sheeple, that's a huge nope from me.

From what I recall, there was some of both in House. He was framed as both awesome and a mess. But I suspect the narrative came down a bit too much on the "awesome" side of the equation for my present-day liking--even if I ignore the later seasons.

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I liked about Dr. Cox from Scrubs, that he was like a House who didn't always have the narrative on his side(sometimes). But even he suffers from me growing past thinking characters like him are awesome.

[(Anonymous)]

I think what saves Dr. Cox on Scrubs is that even when he's right the show never pretends that he's not an asshole or that he wouldn't be better off both professionally and personally if he'd get the fuck over himself for five minutes. House buys into the myth that asshole behavior is the price you pay for genius, and that got old about a million years ago.

[(Anonymous)]

Iirc the show made sure we'd place House on the awesome side by having other, supposedly non-asshole characters behave in ways that made us sympathize with him. Vogler, who was right about House being dangerous, but thought his money put him in charge of the hospital and fired Wilson. Tritter, whom House essentially assaulted and who was right about House forging prescriptions, but went over the top with harassment. Even Cuddy and Wilson, who gaslight House about being right about that paralyzed wheelchair patient to humble him and keep up the ruse even after the resulting self-doubts push House back into a downward spiral. I don't think viewers would have accepted as much genius asshole behavior, even back then, if his critics hadn't repeatedly being turned into villains or the ones taking it too far, thus setting us up to root for House.

[(Anonymous)]

i always say i like this show and it's not that i don't like it, but it definitely ends up being background noise more often than not and i find i really only get invested when chase is on screen.

(i like australians, what can i say?)

[greghousesgf]

I still love the first three seasons but the rest of the show became intolerable, and not just because of House getting crazier and nastier in the later seasons.

[(Anonymous)]

The reason I glommed so hard onto House was that I have been in constant pain for years and I kept hearing the toxic narrative that suffering is supposed to make you a better person, so it was a tremendous relief to see ANY story that countered that narrative.

[(Anonymous)]

I loved it in High School but I absolutely cannot watch it now. My tolerance for assholes who treat people poorly is less than zero.

[meadowphoenix]

I think there are some shows where the conceit only works for you the first time you see it and i thinks it's different for everyone.

house's problem for me was less that he's an asshole and more than so much of his presence was his assholishness. i like my asshole genuises with a little more time in genius mode