[ SECRET POST #5398 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5398 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah it's really frustrating. It feels like so many shows just drop into the void and can't sustain themselves. And I don't understand how it's good for Netflix, either.

[(Anonymous)]

In general, I agree. My best friends watch so many tv shows, they're always reccing shows to me and each other and while I'm sure the shows are good and I'm happy for my friends, I feel so burned out and I don't even watch a lot of shows. And yeah most shows have this intense couple of weeks where everyone is talking about nothing but the new cool show but then everyone moves onto the next show. I can't keep up and I choose not to, but I do miss the days of like, "Lost" or even the 3-4 years where "The Office" had a resurgence in popularity. Shows I enjoy, like "Succession" or "The Umbrella Academy", don't really have active fandoms unless you find a niche group of friends to fandom over with.

TL;DR "fandom isn't what it used to be, this old millennial is ranting about the good ol' days"

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like Succession is an exception

Actually, I feel like HBO is an exception in general, for some reason they're able to keep up momentum and keep people talking about their shows over a long period of time

[(Anonymous)]

Is it really people talking or mostly critics and media people which sets the pace/gives structure to the conversation for everyone else? Because their shows (lately) are not as popular generally speaking as they might seem from the coverage...

[sparklywalls]

I'm perhaps showing my age a bit but 90% of the time I prefer watching stuff like it was before streaming services e.g. waiting a week for the next new episode or at least not watching everything in a day. It's why I was kinda amused by the amount of grousing over Disney+ Marvel shows, because yes I do know it's a way to force you to subscribe for longer, but at the same time Disney didn't invent that, that's literally how you had to watch TV once upon a time? And I'm in the UK so we were regularly getting things ages after the USA if it was one of their shows.

Admittedly spoiler culture wasn't as bad before social media really took off so even weekly episodes now don't protect you from people who seemingly have no job, or kids, or school to get up for so watch new content/entire seasons overnight and then post untagged word vomits that basically spoil everything. I'm not someone who gets really angry about spoilers tbh, but I still find it a little annoying that unless you're able to be awake at 00:05 and stay up all night, even if you put lots of things in place to block or avoid it, the likelihood of encountering some jerk escaping your safety measures and posting some barely concealed happenings increases the longer you wait.

Anyway, this is just my long-winded way of saying I kinda get what you mean. Because I haven't got around to watching Squid Game yet and it already feels like everyone is over it because they've binged it in a day and gone onto the next thing. I'm watching something else (Dark) and wanted to finish that first.

[tabaqui]

I like being able to binge if I want if the series is short or really suspenseful. For whatever reason (I'm not THAT old), I can't just watch an episode and then come back in a week or two and watch the next - I'll be lost.

So being able to watch more quickly - two or three eps in a night, or one a day - works better for me.

Waiting on the cliffhanger back in the land of tv network shows in the seventies was *excruciating*.

[sparklywalls]

Oh I get that because I can't really sit for a month and just pick up where I left off. It's the same with books, I ended up abandoning so many books when I was younger because I'd put a bookmark in, not read it for 2 weeks and then come back and be like "I have no idea who these people are??" and just end up leaving the bookmark in the exact same place.

If all the episodes are already available, I'm a watching 1-2 a night or every couple of nights kind of girl with dramas. Comedies are a bit different, I can do more episodes in a sitting. For example, I could easily watch 3-4 episodes of Schitt's Creek in one sitting but then I'd stop.

But I just find consuming something quickly tiring in a different way to waiting. Almost like I'm missing something because everything is hitting me all at once. I'm very much glad to not have to wait for a whole mid-season/season finale break anymore but at the same time I just don't have the energy (or time) to watch everything available in one or two days.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, same here. I find that if I go too long between episodes, I start to forget what happened in the earlier eps, so I much prefer to be able to either sit down and watch stuff in chunks or do an episode or two per day.

[(Anonymous)]

I prefer the days before streaming, too. I'll watch stuff on streaming if it's something I really want to see that's only available in that format (as was the case with the latest season of "Evil").

But yeah, I much prefer to watch stuff on an actual TV network the night it originally airs. It's what I grew up with, I'm just so used to it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's why I was kinda amused by the amount of grousing over Disney+ Marvel shows, because yes I do know it's a way to force you to subscribe for longer, but at the same time Disney didn't invent that, that's literally how you had to watch TV once upon a time?

Yeah, this.

And it makes me sad when all the fanfic has already been posted a few days after the last episode of the show drops, because I usually need to watch a show more than once before I can write decent fanfic about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like you're equating general audiences with fandom because while most people who watch shows do move on to the next thing quickly, while occasionally talking about it with friends/colleagues when it comes up, fandom inclined people are still here keeping their respective fandoms going. Like I can think of several current fandoms that are still putting out lots of content even with new shows coming out.

But this has always worked this way: most people don't care about a piece of media much beyond it's initial airing.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, agreed. I watch a ton of stuff but I only end up in fandom for maybe 1-2% of it. Most things I watch, enjoy, and then move on to something else. That's always been the case for me and the advent of binge-able stuff hasn't changed my consuming or fandom habits at all.

[(Anonymous)]

i think op is conflating being a fan of something as being in fandom as well, which isn't how it works. most people are casual fans of the things they like, hell i am too with many media properties because while i like them they do not inspire any fannish feelings in me at all, but the ones that do? i'm still here making content for them, that hasn't stopped just because i like some new shows that come out.

also i think what we're seeing is more casual fan activity online, so while it can look like fandom moves on faster, it's more that we're just seeing what's always happened when it comes to media, most people move on from it after a week or a month to the new thing. but it's been like this for a long time with general audiences.

[(Anonymous)]

It is the lack of a central lynchpin for fandom to coalesce around these days that does it. No Usenet group, no webring, no forum, no mailing list, nothing. Without those social hangouts, everyone is screaming into the wind on their own. And that means when one person runs out of puff, there is no way for any others to pick up the button and build on it. Even the pit of voles was a better place to build a fandom and some decent fanon than the incessant drabble and smut machine that is ao3. Even old liveournal did it better. I don't know how we build that back. There can be no discussion when there is nowhere to discuss it in.

Also the super short seasons, which are all one story, leave very little areas to build fandom in. A solid long running series with twenty-twenty six episodes a year, each of which is, in essence, a mini movie each week, that all gives loads of material for fans to delve into.

What do I want? I Want It All Back The Way That It Was. #JMS

[(Anonymous)]

This. All of this.

[(Anonymous)]

This is it exactly! I haven’t been able to engage with fandom in any meaningful way since LJ but there is also less and less to engage about. I don’t have much time to watch things and it was easier when things aired on a schedule. I need a reason to clear time to watch stuff but the media just isn’t worth it for me.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

Yeah, the waiting was excruciating, but it was an enjoyable kind of excruciating. (At least for me.) It meant that I had time to wonder about what would happen next, to speculate, maybe to write a fic or two.

[(Anonymous)]

Hard disagree about AO3 being a worse place for fandom than FF.N.

I can see where you’re coming from otherwise.

[(Anonymous)]

i almost always lose interest when i can't binge a series at my own pace, so the netflix culture is actually perfect for me, but i still get what you mean about fandoms going quiet a lot sooner than they used to. i think part of that is also the nature of where fandoms gather these days, there's a lot more following individuals with multiple shifting interests instead of a community or even FYEAH blog like you would've a few years ago.

[meadowphoenix]

I think sci-fi and other mystery box genres, as well as adaptations of long works do have some sustainability, but yes it feels like fandom has changed.

[(Anonymous)]

Watching a show and being in the fandom for a show are two totally different things, though. Personally, I've watched five different shows in the past few months, but I'm not in the fandoms for any of them because none of them grabbed me like that. They were just shows I watched, and while I enjoyed them well enough, I don't have any interest in delving into fandom. Like, I liked Squid Game, but I don't feel like reading fic for it or engaging in any sort of deep fannish discussion about it beyond the standard "talking about it with other people who watched it too" sort of thing.

It sounds like you get into the fandoms for pretty much everything you watch, but that really isn't the norm for most people.

sa

[(Anonymous)]

I should also add that there are different levels of being in fandom, too. I wouldn't consider myself that involved in the Untamed fandom but if a pretty piece of fanart crosses my Twitter then I'll probably like/retweet it because I did enjoy the show. But I'm not out there looking for fic or having lengthy meta discussions about it.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, you are more forgiving than I am. I hated the Netflix model at first sight. I want the 'one episode a week' TV back now.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.