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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-30 03:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #5412 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5412 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 39 secrets from Secret Submission Post #775.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[personal profile] fscom 2021-10-30 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I've definitely softened on fan art. I try to reblog everything
for my interests with a comment about why I like it.

But I also don't mind if people choose to protect themselves from scrutiny while they work on new skills.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm all for people posting whatever art they want. But I'm just not going to be looking at it or reblogging if I don't like the style. I'm just more picky about art than fic. Honestly I don't really care much about real life art either (other than sculptures and other three-dimensional art). With fic, even a bad one will usually give me a little something. Art just is or it isn't enjoyable to me, there is no middle ground.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, everyone has to start somewhere, and fandom can be very inspiring.

...but if you ask no i did not definitely have a DeviantArt gallery full of earnest anime fan arts doodled during class, no!
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-10-30 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I've mentioned in the past that I used to run a fan art column and it was so cool seeing people submitting stuff for the first time that maybe wasn't great... but then they kept submitting stuff and you could watch it get better and better as time passed.

Also, literal "baby's" first fan art. I remember when Nintendo Power used to publish pictures of envelopes they received along with the letters column, and you'd have stuff like a Mario level covering the entire envelope, clearly drawn with crayon by someone who was maybe 6, but they got so much stuff in there and you could tell they really wanted to make it awesome.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never been comfortable about the mockery that fanart drawn by clearly young/inexperienced artists gets. It's so mean spirited. I can't imagine posting that online.

I can get mocking art drawn by someone who puts others down for theirs or by people who claim to be experts or are arrogant about their drawing skill

But making fun of young/new artists? That's just bullying.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
there's usually two problems that make it difficult, though. One, it's increasingly difficult to differentiate between someone who is a brand-new artist vs someone who's been posting the same shit for decades unless they actually say so. Two, regardless of the skill level, there are artists (and writers, and meta-providers, and memers, and RPers, and cosplayers) who are so addicted to attention that if they don't get enough attention for something they post, they start whinging about why people don't like their shit and you just don't have the heart to say "because it's not very good."

I'm no saying it's required for newbies picking up a thing to openly remind everyone that they're new to this and please be gentle every time they post, but I absolutely would get behind people having a little more self-awareness and humility. That goes for consumers as well; if someone has put out a piece of fandom content and not asked for critique, do not openly critique. Consume to whatever level is best for you, but the easiest way to not bully anyone over their art/fic/whatever is to keep your goddamn mouth shut unless they've specifically asked for advice to improve.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
No to mockery/bullying. But also I mute and block artists with low-quality fanart and styles I don't like. I am glad people are learning new skills, it's really cool. Still I don't want seeing this fanarts, I am not a teacher.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, but it still frustrates me when you then get really crappy art (like 2D floating people with no apparent fingers) in an exchange. They should post all they like on their own tumblrs or fandom platforms, fans shouldn't bully new artists, but it's fine to block quietly if you want.

Comparing fanart to fic

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I’m not really into fanart, do you think “baby’s first fanart” gets more flak than “baby’s first fic”?

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-31 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's good to normalize not bullying people for their art or not giving concrit when it wasn't asked for, but I also think people are under no obligation to praise/like/reblog art that isn't very good and that they don't really like, just because the artist is new. And if an artist is going to enter any kind of exchange/big bang/zine etc. I think it's perfectly fair to expect a certain level of quality. There's room to learn and new artists should be encouraged but I also don't think they need to be coddled (and at some point they should start learning and improving, I've been in fandoms where one artist is constantly complaining about not getting any attention but they've been drawing the same shitty MS Paint drawings for years at this point. If you want attention in fandom improve enough that people will want to reblog your stuff).

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Thanks for turning my comment into a secret, secret maker!

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2021-10-30 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw a critic once who disliked this movie because they thought it only worked on the metaphorical level. They thought it made no sense to treat a literal monster the way this movie’s MC treats the depression metaphor.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2021-10-30 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
He really needs to stop casting himself in anything.

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Thanks for making the secret, secret-maker!

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2021-10-30 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That was me when I realized Cape Feare was a (great) parody of Cape Fear. Granted, I was was too young to know about Cape Fear.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-30 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey now! You're trying! And that's what counts!

I don't frequently submit mine to any of the secret maker threads because I feel like people will get tired of me (since all my secrets would more or less be about the same thing lol).

Thanks for contributing!!

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NS, NF, etc.

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What are you playing?

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Board games, video games, tabletop games, virtual games, etc.

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A late check in

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Scotland in Fiction.

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Games thread!