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[ SECRET POST #5582 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5582 ⌋

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I don't ship them or any other ship with Gojo, but yeah... I don't really see Gojo as a dominant top. Him being a power or bratty bottom has way more appeal to me.

I feel you pain, though. I have a ship in BNHA where the one I imagine as a dominant top is almost exclusively seen as a bottom in the Western fandom. So sad. :(

I feel you! This happens a lot with certain fandoms(JJK and BNHA definitely included, I’d know because I’m part of both as well) where people get it into their heads that one person is a complete bottom, and the other is a complete top, and that becomes the seemingly agreed upon dominant dynamic. And people who think differently about these characters and ships are far outnumbered. I very frequently find myself disagreeing with these popular dynamics, and am very frustrated when I can’t find what I like.

Like, I don’t begrudge anyone for the dynamics they like. I just wish the fandom didn’t seem to get so set on one being more “right” than the other, and just have everyone experiment with what appeals to them as the default instead of those people frequently writing contrary to the dominant dynamics, and have more variety in who tops/bottoms and in ships in general. I don’t like how who some people think would be top and bottom in a ship basically becomes fanon amongst a large group of people, when a lot of the time, the ship itself isn’t even canon. And even if it was, people don’t always have sex the same way every time.

I AGREE 100%.
Also, fun fact: Western anime/manga fandom often complains about the seme/uke dicotomy in BL manga, but how they portrait certain ships is just like that same seme/uke thing. I hate it. At least make them switch sometimes????
Incredibily enough, I've always found more variety in the Japanese side of certain fandom, especially BNHA, where the fandom is huge and there is a lot of 25+ years old content creators. Anime/Manga fandom people in the west are... too young... I'm... too old...

This!

Yeah it's just... writing him as this super dom-y top just feels super OOC to me at times. And especially with Megumi, people like to write him in a way that's just kinda creepy and you really feel like they're just projecting their daddy kink on it (doesn't help that in those fics, Megumi almost always turns into the most stereotypical stereotype of a weepy like and just... /sigh)

I could see him just not really getting why what he's doing would be creepy and him not getting or misinterpreting boundaries because him just being ~above~ such petty rules fits with his character but intentionally doing it? Eh.

I don't even feel like he has any "dom vibes" when he's using his powers. He's just over power and basically invincible, but nope, not seeing the dom in him.
I can see him as a gentle top with Megumi, but IMHO power bottom is way more interesting for Gojo.

BTW western anime/anime fandom sure has a thing for daddy kink. Not judging any kinks here, but I myself find that specific kink pretty hilarious and every time a character say "daddy" in a fic I just lose it.

Yeah despite all his talk about being the strongest and the way rules just... don't apply to him he's just acting waaay to spoiled for me to see him as anything but a bratty bottom lol

I mean, especially looking at his past interaction with Toji I can see this going in interesting directions with Megumi and people could still get their daddy kink on but bleh, most don't appear to agree.

I totally agree with the daddy link thing. Like, ykinmk and all but I find it super cringey...

I had to stop and think about what was problematic before I remembered one's a high schooler and the other is of an unspecified (at least as far as I've watched) age.

Also, Gojo is his legal guardian since Megumi was 6ish.

AYRT ah, yeah I am only like 4 episodes in and haven't read the manga, but that would do it haha.

Gojo is specifically stated to be 28!

NAYRT

Reading that Gojo was 28 made me feel some type of way since usually I get all hot for characters who are older than me (I'm 29 -- was 28 when the anime started). I couldn't tell if it's that I always see myself as younger or that I usually prefer the older dudes. He's still fine as hell 10/10 would try.

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Yeah, I think the "was Megumi's legal guardian since he was a kid" and "is implied to have basically paid off his blood family to keep him away from them (which is a good thing)" and "killed his dad because the guy almost succeeded in killing him first" are very much the bigger issues but the age gap is pretty big as well. I think I just don't care about the gap because idk, Megumi is old enough to fight, kill and be killed, he's old enough to consent imo.

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I think that the age gap in this particular pairing is not so off putting because of the dynamic between the two. Megumi externally seems like the more mature one, while Gojo is a little shit most of the time, so you can really forget that he's supposed to be the responsible adult in the couple.

Just a question because I'm curious and I don't see the pairing myself (I can see the appeal), but I know it's huge: what do you personally like about the ship? Do you usually like pairings like this (age gap, mentor/students etc) or is it an exception?

Hmmm I think what I like about this ship is, among others, kinda based on what you already wrote - the way that despite the age gap, their whole dynamic is actually the reverse of what would usually be expected from the age gap and mentor/student situation.
I have shipped mentor/student ships before but I wouldn't say it's something I actively seek out or would consider a particular "kink".
I think I often like the "one is a little shit and the other is a stoic iceberg who pretends to be annoyed but is actually fond of the other" shipping dynamic though.

That and I think their general backstory is kinda interesting and I do enjoy fic in which the whole "they are kinda family, whoops, no this is turning into something different" conflict is present. Plus you have the whole "Megumi is kinda destined to grow up to be the only person who could measure up to Gojo's OPness" thing which I find... weirdly romantic? Idk, Gojo, for all his happy-go-lucky attitude has the "it's lonely at the top" trope down to a t and the thought of him actually hoping for someone else to be on his level is right up my alley, platonically or romantically.

Thanks for the answer! :D
I hadn't considered the whole "Megumi is kinda destined to grow up to be the only person who could measure up to Gojo's OPness" angle and yeah, it's pretty interesting and romantic!
The it's lonely at the top trope is part of the appeal of Sukuna/Megumi for some people, but it makes ever more sense with Gojo.

Gojo even says this to him (chapter 117 iirc)- something about the last time there were both a limitless/six eyes user and a ten shadows user at the same time, they ended up killing each other - as a way to imply "you are stronger than you think" I believe.
And yeah, while I don't personally ship it, I can totally get Sukuna/Megumi as well based on that. They also have some really cool doujinshi haha

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Megumi being old enough to fight and kill in a setting where people are frequently trained for that kind of thing starting relatively young doesn’t really mean Megumi is suddenly able to consent if he’s still underaged. That’s not really how it works. That’s like saying the same thing about Naruto pre-timeskip. Same with Megumi being mature for his age in looks or demeanor.

Don’t get me wrong though, all that is just if you reply real world logic to this and treat these characters like they’re real though. Megumi isn’t real, and you aren’t doing anything wrong by shipping him with Gojo, not matter what antis say. So you don’t really need to justify why you think it’s okay to shop FushiGo, because it just is okay. I’m more of a fan of FushiIta/ItaFushi, but I like Gojo with both Megumi and Yuji too, especially if Gojo bottoms.

I get what you mean but he is also able to legally consent both in the country the story takes place in AND in the country I live in so that's generally a non-issue for me. I just always think it's a weird double standard (that is, in my experience, very American) that violence and murder = totally okay but anything even remotely sexual = evilbadwrong protect the children.

That’s not completely true that’s it’s totally legal for an adult to date a minor if they’re over 13 in all of Japan, but it’s not completely untrue either. It is still frowned upon even in Japan for an adult more than 10 years of age to date a minor, but it’s definitely only truly illegal across all prefectures if they’re under 13. On the surface. For instance, at one point(and possibly still a thing) in Tokyo there’s something called the Youth Protection Act that considers anyone under 18 a minor, and on paper prohibits adults from dating over 18 from dating anyone under 18. It doesn’t seem to be enforced strictly though, which is why I say it’s prohibited on paper. It’s all very complicated, and I’m not going to pretend I understand all of it completely, but here’s some articles if you’re interested, because they can explain things better than I can(although some of them may be outdated at this point, because legal matters change all the time):
https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/what-is-the-age-of-consent-in-japan.html
https://myotakuworld.com/why-japanese-teens-can-get-arrested-for-dating/
https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan

Either way, I still think that real life age of consent laws shouldn’t affect fic and fanart, so it should really be a non-issue if someone ships Megumi and Gojo. Keyword being should. But we all know how the moral brigade and their harassment campaigns work by now, unfortunately.

And I could not agree more about the double standard between violence and sex! And it is indeed a predominantly American double standard. It’s pretty stupid to think one is perfectly fine and the other is immoral.

I am aware of all this (did some courses on Japanese law in uni and dear lord yeah, it's complicated) but maybe someone else might find these links interesting so thanks for you effort! The whole "Japanese people are all pedos and perverts because AoC is 13" gets kinda old (and feels kinda racist a lot of the times) so it's nice to see other people are aware that there is a whole lot of nuance there.

I mean, Megumi's... 16ish at the start of the series I think and I have no illusions about teenagers being some sexless pure creatures so age of consent or not, I think the morality of the Jujutsu-world as is is pretty wishy washy about a lot of things so I feel like it would be regarded as not too big of a deal in-universe (though I don't mind that being tackled in fic either). And really, who could say no to something Gojo wants? He's kinda untouchable (literally, too) - which actually is the reason I don't love him as a dominant top because that really looks a bit too much like coercion to me and that's not really my thing (not knocking anybody who liked that though. Fictional people and all.).

Personally, I've seen a lot of GoFushi with Megumi still much younger than the start of the series and... yeah, that's not for me but it also doesn't bother me much because, again, fictional people. I just feel like the whole "bad touch Gojo" (which appears to be the tag of choice for those stories) thing is wildly OOC.

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Thank you secret maker! Perfect picture choice haha!

gojo being a service top and megumi "going along with it" because gojo is clearly very into it and he doesn't mind either way really it's whatever he'll play along is the superior flavor to me, megumi is stoic and rather forthcoming in certain contexts but a bit bottled up and embarrassed about certain other things so i can definitely see it playing out that way where he sort of rationalizes that he's just indulging gojo rather than the other way around

Yeah, I get it. It's not my preferred flavour but totally valid!

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