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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-05-29 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #5623 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5623 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-29 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Or just the age rating, and whatever the art department put on the poster or video cover. Sometimes, if you got lucky, you'd catch Mary Whitehouse ranting about it on tv and get an idea if it was giving her a fit of the vapours because of sex, violence, or both. Mary Whitehouse publicised so many movies for me when I was a kid.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-29 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH same. I'm more and more for blanket warnings. If you're someone who needs specific warnings you should rely on friends/family to fill you in or stuff like Does the Dog Die? but I think people have gotten way too neurotic about it to the point some people will warn for stuff that's not even in the fuckin' thing. I think at that point people need to take a step back. Content warnings are all well and good if they're accurate but 1. a lot of them aren't anymore and 2. creator(s) are really starting to feel way too responsible for the comfort of other people and I don't think that's supposed to be their job.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-29 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you. I'm all for content warnings when they're used thoughtfully and appropriately. But these days I see a lot of people including content warnings for everything because they clearly just think it's what you do if you're Not An Asshole™, rather than because they've thought about why these warnings exist, who they're really for and how to use them effectively.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2022-05-29 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This exactly.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
The one warning I see everywhere now that I just don't GET is 'product placement'. Like... when did media NOT have a pepsi can or whatever in it?! We exist with named products in our lives, it's dumb to expect media to be clean of these items.

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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2022-05-30 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same. I use generic ratings for my writings, I post a summary of the story like what you'd get for a hard-copy book, I label major characters if I'm writing fanfic, and then I trust my readers to know themselves enough to decide if they want to risk reading or not.

If you see 'Viewer discretion advised' and that makes you stop and research online what exactly that means for that movie/episode/whatever before you watch it, then it's done it's job! And you've done yours!

(Anonymous) 2022-05-29 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this, but for fanfictions.
For visual media I don't really get the difference from the old days because I don't read the warnings. I'm probably just aware if there's any age restriction, but the rest is almost always a surprise. If a movie is R it's probably going to have sex in it. But the rest? IDK.
I watch a lot of horror and/or fucked up movies (ie. Martyrs, Antichirst, Visitor Q, etc) and I know it's going to get BAD. I'm going in without spoiling anything to myself.
I don't live in USA so maybe our rating system here is different? Like, we don't have any specifics under the age restriction tag in the DVD case. It's usually just a "Only for 18+" or "Mature content". Or I just didn't notice.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Movies in the US don't usually come with reasons for the ratings listed on the DVD case. That's only in the previews, and only printed underneath the rating when it flashes on the screen so it's easy to miss. The only thing I know gives reasons on the box consistently is video games.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2022-05-29 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
“Author chose not to use archive warnings”

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The option for when you don't want to get screamed at for (a) not leaving enough warnings; or (b) leaving enough warnings but people consider them spoilers. I mean, make up your goddamn minds people. You can have sufficient warnings or you can not have spoilers, it is a binary choice.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-29 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t really agree with you. Or any of the others in the replies. But that obviously doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong these opinions, they make sense, even if it’s a different perspective than mine.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get where the other side is coming from, but man, I love warnings and tags. I love using them on my stuff, and I love using them to find and avoid stuff. There's really no downside of them for me--though I do think when it comes to original fiction it's important for them to be located somewhere where they can be avoided, if people don't want to see them.

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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2022-05-29 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
My only pet peeve with detailed warnings is they can be sort of spoilery.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Some detailed warnings are kind of redundant IMO in the case of things which are implied by the genre and type of story. If something is explicitly a story about mafia I don't need specific warnings for mob violence, for example. There's some things I just don't think need to be tacked on to that list because they're already warned for by nature of that story existing in the first place. I think a lot of people get way too in the weeds when it comes to thinking of what exactly needs to be warned for.
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[personal profile] dancingmouse 2022-05-30 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Unpopular opinion, might be burned at the stake for this, but that's all that's needed. If anyone has any major concern about triggers, they should ask around about them, or look up some reviews. Don't expect anyone to hold your hand or spoon-feed you anything.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You seem to be in the majority with this opinion, so why are you acting like it’s an “unpopular opinion, might be burnt at the stake for this”?? And it’s not the opinion most people who disagree with would have a problem with, it’s the way you said it, especially the last sentence.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind warnings, though I don't have any particular triggers. While I do have a few squicks, I'm generally okay with just stopping reading or watching if I come upon them unexpectedly. But I do find detailed warnings useful sometimes, like for when I'm choosing something for someone else as a gift or to recommend, or if I'm in a certain mood. If I don't feel like I want the warnings, I just don't pay attention to them.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
"You should get triggered and have horrible PTSD episodes or just avoid stuff so I can be surprised."

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, people can most likely look up the content of a piece of media online. That said, warnings allow a person to filter out triggers without getting totally spoiled for the entire plot of something, whereas looking up a synopsis forces one to completely spoil oneself in order to check for triggers.

Personally I don't understand why people don't want to help others avoid triggers. Hell, even if we disregard actual full-blown triggers, I have no desire for people to have a bad time consuming my work, and if I can take three minutes to help as many people as possible have a good time, I am sincerely glad to do so, and I have genuinely no idea why I wouldn't be. *shrug*

Clearly YMMV.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Now I'm thinking of that one writer in my old fandom that used to write detailed vomiting scenes and just squeeze them anywhere in their Gen fics without any warning. They were a good writer, but it got so just seeing their name made me feel queasy.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
What are you all consuming if you can't SKIP warnings if you don't want to be spoiled?
Like creators can choose not to include tws and that's their choice, and it shouldn't be punished. But also it's your choice not to read them if they are included. And have your fucking dead dove present all you want

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Where I live, they follow it up by listing a small group of what the content actually includes. Say; Violence, Coarse Language, Nudity/Sexuality, ect.
Still though, I pretty much had the exact same thought when trying to sift through tabs in a new fandom of mine, like I can't even explain it, but those 'viewer discretion advised' warnings are so much more preferable imo.

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(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Wondering now if there were an overlay option that let you choose the level of detail would satisfy those whom the warnings would help and those who don’t want spoilers - like from just rating/discretion advised to general categories to specifics.

(Anonymous) 2022-05-30 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Not me. I'm very comfortable with nudity and sex (and have been since I was a kid), but graphic violence is a real problem for me. It's nice to get a broad, not-too-spoilery indication of why viewer discretion is being advised.

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