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(Anonymous) 2022-08-08 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Vent thread
(Anonymous) 2022-08-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)The Anglican church have now, in 2022, after some debate declared gay sex to definitely be a sin. And all the quiet faith I didn't even know I had has just died.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-08 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)I, a trans person... have Thoughts about this.
On one hand, yay! More trans rep! On the other hand...
Originally Bridget was born in a set of same-sex male twins. The fictional culture in which they were born stigmatised same-sex twins as a bad omen. This means that there's a lot of pressure for infanticide. Instead, Bridget's parents raise them as a girl, to preserve their life, and to hide the truth from everybody else.
In past games, Bridget outwardly identifies as male. Strongly, even. Their whole things was that they were like "Even though I was raised this way and I've strong feminine inclinations, I'm still a boy!"
In the most recent game, Bridget says they are, indeed, a girl. But that's really uncomfortable for me. To me it feels like Bridget's gave into the gender put upon them by their parents and ended up reinforcing that one shitty idea that parents force trans identities on their kids. Then there's the whole erasing feminine cis men. Like there's no way for a cis man to be feminine without having trans inclinations.
I'm so fucking torn. It really hit me like a gut punch when I saw the scene.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)But leaving personal feelings of foreigners aside we must take into account the cultural background too - issues of sex and gender expression are dealt with very differently in Japan and there were a lot of societal changes in the past decade, parallel to the west's own changes, so... I think there are some deep, interesting discussions to be made. Unfortunately if there is one thing that P4 and CT fandoms have taught me it is that they arent gonna happen
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 12:12 am (UTC)(link)This would have been much cooler as a trans story, because the idea of boys escaping into being girls because they can't hack it as boys is.... not good. But also because there is a very touching (it's Danganronpa so bear with me) part of the story where his murderer goes out of his way to conceal the fact that he was killed in the boys' locker room, to protect his secret. If this character had been a trans girl this could have been a powerful act of affirmation. It also would explain away why the game and other characters keep treating him like a girl even after it is revealed.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 02:26 am (UTC)(link)Also not a fan of any quibbles that have to do with "erasing feminine boys" because it's almost always used as a talking point next to the transphobic talking point that trans people are trying to "trans" gender-nonconforming kids. The trans community by and large is more accepting than your average cis of gender-nonconformity in both cis and trans people of all genders. Nobody says if a boy is feminine then he's really a girl. However, many feminine "boys" turn out to be trans girls. That's not an issue.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 04:07 am (UTC)(link)She's since decided fuck that. She's enby but isn't so shy of she/her anymore. Bridget feels like that's what's going on, instead. Less, "I guess..." And more, "Soooo, my problems were the type of femininity they tried to shove onto me. I'm a girl, and that's okay, I don't have to be the girl they wanted me to be."
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 12:30 am (UTC)(link)Like, they could just assume that when I say I don't have friends, to their faces, when I tell them how much I love them and that they are my best friends all the time, that I mean I do not have an real life friends. They could just gloss over the nonspecificity and focus on the problem I'm describing, but they always have to make it about themselves instead and then my problem gets ignored so they can half-joke about being hurt.
I don't think any of them can really conceptualise how lonely I am. I don't talk to my family, I have no friends, I have literally no one to rely on. They have partners, roommates, parents, *someone* around them. And I'm not saying that means their lives are easier or whatever, but that they do not understand what it is like and it's so frustrating.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 01:03 am (UTC)(link)Being a pretty lonely person both online and IRL (perhaps even more online nowadays which says a lot lol) this has happened to me before and years later I was told that I was unapproachable - I lived the farthest from my group of online friends and have social phobia to boost which makes me extra shy/impersonal. I wasn't going for "unapproachable" but my online friends felt that about me.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 01:04 am (UTC)(link)They could just gloss over
Or, you could say specifically what you mean so they don't have to "assume" or "gloss over" you saying something that hurts their feelings? My mom does this kind of shit to me all the time and then says "oh, you knew what I meant" when it would've been just as easy to be more careful with her word choice.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 01:27 am (UTC)(link)I get you, OP. I love my online friends, some of them I've known for more than a decade. But when they don't live in my state and I could really use someone to help me out IRL... well, they wish they could be there and I wish they could be there, but none of my online friends tries to make my legit problem all about themselves, nor do they try to guilt trip me about wanting/needing friends who can be physically available as well as emotionally available.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 04:00 am (UTC)(link)Sending you hugs, if that will help at all.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 01:02 am (UTC)(link)And I don't even have children. I don't know how people are doing life with children. I totally understand why so many people left the work force in 2021.
I should be glad I'm not an Amazon worker or something, and I am, but god. We need to seriously look at the reality of work in the 21st century, and it does not involve 40 hours a week.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-09 02:52 am (UTC)(link)I just don't get it, and I never have. I can handle like 20 hours per week and still keep up with the absolute basic household stuff, and that's it.
I don't get how everyone does it. And I'm sure many people's response will basically be, "Because I don't have a choice," and I'm sympathetic to that, I truly am, but like, yeah, I didn't have a choice either. That's how I ended up on government disability. Because I had to do it, and I still couldn't do it.
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