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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-27 06:28 pm

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The tiktok algorithm is neutral and if it shows you that content, it is because your behavior is similar to the behavior of the kind of person who consumes that content

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it's like those guys who are all, "Tiktok is all dancing girls in bikinis!". That algorithm is all on you, my guy.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

And sometimes the algorithm is wrong about you - IE, my algorithm really thinks that I like the Percy Jackson books - but that's where it's coming from.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes. And sometimes the algorithm serve me TERF shit because someone whose tiktok I liked got a million TERFs coming to argue with them.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about tik tok I don't use it, but sometimes I get sucked into youtube's cosplay of tik tok and algorithm works exactly like this. It's algorithm maybe neutral, but creators who post inflammatory stuff to keep comments going aren't.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Algorithms are inherently hostile when they aren't transparent and editable by users.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
>implying algorithms in general are ever neutral

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
This happens to me with Instagram. I get a lot of reels like that.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I wish I could find resources to help cope with shit I'm never getting diagnosed because apparently its too popular to be taken seriously right now (that and I grew up in the 90s where the UK doctors were adamant that Autism Is A Boy's Thing - so I can't fucking win in any era and too broke to pay for private treatment).

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's "popular" because everyone else who experiences things like you do has - just like you - due to increased knowledge and information available, realized that they probably also have ADHD. ADHD is more common than we thought, don't assume you're the real one and everyone else in your boat is a fakey faker who's just cashing in on the "popularity" and hindering you from getting a diagnosis.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I agree to some extent.

But I also think there's a big problem with diagnosis where just, like, no one seems to know what the fuck is going on with any of these diagnostic categories and no one knows where the lines should actually be drawn. We increasingly have a 'folk' conception of autism and ADHD that's far broader than the formal diagnostic conception - and while it seems clear to me that the 'folk' conception has a good deal of legitimacy, I also suspect that it's over-broad in some ways, because a lot of it is just based on people saying like "this is what life is like for me" and then other people saying "same."

So really it's sort of a bad position for everyone. It's not that people are big fakers, it's that we don't have a good way of diagnosing people and nobody knows WTF is going on.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has more than one of those conditions, I'm sick and tired of the trend of people trying to infantilize themselves because how can anyone POSSIBLY expect them to do adult things that literally every adult needs to do??

I don't give a shit if you have ADHD. So do I. Part of being an adult with ADHD is that you figure out what you specifically need to do so that the things that need to get done get done.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

I'm on the autistic spectrum and a big part of dealing with my issue is figuring out ways that I can work around it.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Feel like this is a context collapse thing, where there are multiple legitimate reactions in different contexts but on the Internet they all get merged into each other in ways that are uncomfortable and frustrating.

There's nothing wrong - IMO - with someone who is just coming to terms with the fact that their life is harder than other peoples' lives because their brain works in certain ways that other peoples' don't. That's a shitty reality of life. And when it's something you've been dealing with all your life, and you've just thought it was either normal or even worse that you were just worse at stuff than other people, it's OK to have an emotional reaction and deal with that.

Equally, at a certain point, people do have to pick themselves up and figure out how to deal with life anyway. And there are absolutely people who self-infantilize and use ADHD or whatever else as an excuse to simply not do things that they need to be able to do. And that is frustrating and shitty.

Ideally, both of those experiences should be able to exist at the same time. In practice, unfortunately, that's not the case.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Bad take, tbh.

I used to see those tiktoks a lot too, and not once did I see any one complain about not being able to live their lives and get things done that need to be done. In fact, most of them seem to be fairly well-off from what I can tell: Their own apartments/homes, cars, jobs, and at least a few friends who kind of "get it."

The fact that you're being high and mighty about being able to gut it out and get things done that you think should be done tells me you probably aren't that neurodivergent. Or maybe you never have many serious obstacles/people in your life to begin with.

Because I could probably do better in life too if people in my life understood anything about my autism. They can't seem to grasp that it makes me want to vomit if I look someone in the eyes too long. Or why I dread being in crowds or meeting new people. Instead what I get all the time is people expecting be to be like them. To be okay with what they're okay with, and then call me lazy, or a liar, when I don't act the way a "normal" person does.

They don't get that I can't force myself to be like them without feeling like I'm hurting myself just trying.

Whatever. Fuck you just a little bit.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes the "just pretend to be neurotypical because that's how the world works" bootstraps.

Like, I get it. The world sucks. But it would be nice of like. The world was a bit more accommodating, too! To the point that it isn't, "Do your best to be neurotypical" when they mean "treatment."

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
I think the people above you who are being hard on you have good points, but the mentality you seem to be suffering from the most, from my perspective, is "I'm suffering so I want other people to suffer too." You can function, but to do so is exhausting, it's draining, it's painful. Some people would rather not make themselves suffer as much as you do, so they end up being less functional than you in the eyes of society, and that upsets you. But what upsets you isn't that they can't function, it's that you want them to try as hard as you so you can have company in your misery.

I know I sound patronizing, but I think it's something I need to hear myself, so maybe you need to hear it too.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Part of being an adult with ADHD is that you figure out what you specifically need to do so that the things that need to get done get done.

I mean, sure, but this is not something I was remotely capable of before getting medicated. There was zero correlation between effort spent and results achieved. 95% of my effort was spent spinning my wheels and there was nothing I could do about that, it was just the reality of how my brain worked.

Once I got medicated, I started to understand what it actually meant to knuckle down and get things done. What's funny is, "knuckling down" became easier than just existing had been, pre-medication.

There's also a big difference between areas where a lack of executive function affects mostly oneself and areas where it affects others. Most of the "society should be more accommodating of neurodivergence" content I've seen online is focused on the former areas of executive disfunction, not the latter areas.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Literally, this was my tumblr dash until I blocked a bunch of people.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
How is it fandom?

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Something from Gawker described as “highly accurate”? Anything is possible I guess.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Because China wants to destroy your mental health with one TikTok clip at a time.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-28 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
come on