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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-02-17 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #5886 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5886 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2023-02-17 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
12. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, other bigotry, suicide]
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(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm genuinely curious, what circles are you in? Because no one in the circles I'm in, which includes a sector of trans Twitter, has demanded anyone kill themselves for buying the game. I'm not saying it's never happened, I've just not come across it.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen people demanding to donate the money for trans charities (one of them the infamous Trans Lifeline) rather than buying the game, which is not the same than demanding to someone to kill themselves for buying the game, but they don't seem to understand the "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" definition.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
To give one example, jambeast.tumblr.com has repeatedly been told he should kill himself for buying the game, even though he keeps repeating that he didn't buy or play the game. I think misanthropiccatboy.tumblr.com got some of the "kill yourself" anons too.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Based on OP's answer, they're in the kind of circles that think "wokeism" is the biggest threat to society. So, much like Jehovah's Witnesses who come home after a day of evangelizing shook up about the evil outsiders who refuse to be saved, OP and friends are heartbroken that telling Jews and trans folks that they're making shit up and not oppressed anyway has led to people being mean to them in the comments.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Stop pretending like the trans community doesn't have some unhinged asshole who fling threats at everyone who doesn't immediately agree with them. Is it a small minority? Yes. Are they still asshole? Also, yes. Playing the "our group is so morally pure and perfect and would never do something like this and if they do they're justified" card is pretty dumb.

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
A streamer I follow wanted to play the game and donate the donations from those streams to Lgbt+ charities and still got death threats an masse so, yes, it happens. You get death threats on Twitter for shipping the wrong ships, why is it so hard to imagine that something this controversial wouldn't prompt death threats?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck that person, because frankly I don't care how much you donate to us. You had to do NOTHING and you couldn't even fucking do that, you just HAD to play the stupid Blood Libel TERF game and you wanna feel good about yourself so you decide to run a charity. Fuck you, you can't charity your way outta being a shitty ally!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like you have made a pretty big jump somewhere in this secret.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
people are two-faced as hell. you'll get told to kill yourself just for disagreeing with someone over dumb fandom shit.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
who cares you transphobic, antisemitic troll?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-17 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This secret is wank-bait. Denying someone royalties is not the same as telling them to kill themself.
philstar22: (Criminal Minds: Hotch head hurts)

[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-18 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
What is this secret? All the things you mention are awful, but none of them are related. What on earth do the things you talk about from the past, which were rare and awful, have to do with JK Rowling and calling out her transphobia and refusing to give her money that she uses to promote her transphobia?

This secret genuinely baffles me.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
People don't learn! It was bad to tell people to kill themselves over this, and it was bad to tell people to kill themselves over that, and it was bad to tell people to kill themselves over the other, but this time, they think it's good to tell people to kill themselves!
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[personal profile] philstar22 2023-02-18 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen any signs of people telling people to kill themselves in this instance except from some of the transphobic Rowling fans.

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
If people tell other people to kill themselves in every single online argument, then it's probably a characteristic of online arguments in general, and not anything specific to this online argument

In other words: telling people to kill themselves is unfortunately just what happens in online arguments.

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
This secret's nearly illegible, but as far as I can tell, it looks like you tried to get someone to tell you that you were still pretty after you bought the "blood libel: transphobic wizard edition" game and they told you that you suck instead and now you think you're oppressed.

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't buy or play this game, and everything I've heard about it sounds awful. I'm just sick of all the moral crusades. People keep saying that this isn't what "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" is for, and that you can still believe that while harassing people (you think) bought the game. I don't think that's true at all. I think this is exactly what "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" is for, and if you harass people over that, then I'm sorry, but you do in fact believe some consumption under capitalism is more or less ethical.

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
My question is why do people need to tell everyone that they're playing it if all they want to do is enjoy a game? Why do they need strangers blessings while knowing that its something they're against?

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
You're not wrong; telling people to kill themselves over something like this is unhinged. OTOH, I'm not sure how many people are actually telling people to kill themselves over this. I don't think it's as common as this secret is suggesting it is.

If you're argument is actually, "Passing judgement on a person's entire moral character based on whether or not they buy the HP game is toxic moral absolutism and I dismay that this is the state of online discourse now," then...yeah, I agree with that too. But that's a whole lot more complicated of an issue than what's being put forwards in this secret.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
the fact that the chin is all you can see is hilarious - why even bother to include a picture? Is there even a point to ask who it is?

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
The text needs more stroke.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. Some of the twitch chat rooms have been vile about this sort of thing. I agree that it's never a good time to tell someone to kill themselves.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck TERFs, I hope you lose all your precious luxuries for awhile and get some perspective.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-18 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"think like me or else you're wrong" perspective? lol

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