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[ SECRET POST #876 ]

⌈ Secret Post #876 ⌋

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Wow, you're making fun of Christians and their God!

HOW EDGY!!!!

uh, they were making fun of fundies

learn to read kay thanks

Sorry, I just forgot that only liberal gay-friendly Christians are true Christians nowadays.

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*insert "that radical socialist long-haired jew" icon here*

This thread gives me hope for those of us who're both Christian and gay-friendly :).

This site seems to agree a bit. (http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/gay_couple.html) I'm not sure he was liberal and gay-friendly, but he said a gay man had incredible faith. Not many churches say that.

fundies preach hate and torture in america

Fundementalist speaking here.

No we don't. Just the loudmouthed idiots.

Unfortunately, the 'loudmouth idiots' are the only face of fundamentalist Christianity. Perhaps someone should arrange for the reasonable, intelligent fundamentalist to start speaking up a bit.

Perhaps they might be able to persuade me that reasonable fundamentalist isn't actually a contradiction in terms.

Certainly.

One of the main things about us fundamentalists is that we take the Bible literally, correct? Some do it to the absolute extreme, going as far as to believe that the parables Jesus told (which He even said were STORIES HE MADE UP) actually happened, which, of course, is contradictory and makes no sense whatsoever.

On the other side, you have the reasonable ones that take the Bible literally and put it IN CONTEXT. You can take the Bible literally, and take it totally out of context to say things like "there is no God" and that Satan will give you what you want. Then you can take the Bible literally, and put it in context to understand what its words mean.

The Bible was not written in English. There is no absolutely perfect translation out there, and people who believe that there is one are severely misinformed. You have to study the ancient languages AND the cultures of the times the Bible was written in to understand things such as the laws (including those that supposedly condemn homosexuality).

This fundamentalist, for a long while, never really did much research in the Bible and just believed absolutely everything they were told by their fallible, human pastor.

Now they're studying some things on their own and realizing that their pastor is misinterpreting some things, and thus, they in turn are misinterpreting some things themself. From the looks of their studies thus far, it doesn't look like the Bible condemns homosexuality, even in the passages so many people claim it does.

Once again, this is a fundamentalist speaking. :)

This Catholic loves you so hard for this, Anon. SO HARD.

I´m catholic and once I was expeled from church school for saying that adam and eve were a metaphor. So I can´t even begin to WORD what you saied. People should just read the bible for themselves, and stop relying in "higher orders", such as the pope.

My mom was director of religious education at the one church I was part of, so we were really good friends with the Pastor there, and he was very fond of telling us that the bible is nothing but a collection of Jewish metaphors, and that it's the message that's important. Catholic priest saying this. So yeah, I'm all for reading it and finding your own conclusions.

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THANK YOU!

*nodding* I've had the same thing happen. I was raised as Catholic, and then as Baptist for years. My parents are deeply involved in the church, but thankfully aren't completely zomg!amazing about it. But still, they're a lot more religious than I am. I used to take everything I was told at face value until I started looking up a few things on my own that I didn't agree with. Homosexuality is a huge thing for me--I'm heterosexual, but I still think that the way the church often regards them is horrible. :/

It's nice to see a Christian with a calm head on their shoulders who actually knows what they're talking about instead of just throwing around "Jesus!" and such.

I always thought God was pretty straightforward when he said to Moses in Leviticus 18:22, after saying "Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them":

"Do not have sex with a man as you would with a woman. It is an abomination."

And in Leviticus 20:13:

"If a man has sex with a man in same way as with a woman, they have committed an abomination. They are certainly to be put to death. Their blood is on their own heads."

You're saying these laws don't really condemn homosexuality, and I'm genuinely interested to know how that works. Is there something we should understand about the culture of the time? Do these passages mean something entirely different in the original hebrew?

Jesus doesn't really seem to have anything against the old laws, either. Am I reading this wrong? Matthew 5:17-18:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

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Not all do. A few select assholes are a poor representation of a whole.

Christianity isn't supposed to be a hateful religion by any means. Jesus Christ taught that you should love your fellow man, regardless of the sins they commit. And if said sinners asked for forgiveness, they would go to the Kingdom of God. (I'm not even a Christian and I know this, haha;;;.)
Some people interpret it differently, but that's the way I always saw it. (:

YES! Thank you!

Because nobody ever makes fun of the fundamentalists of any other religion. :/

Methinks you need to join the real world.

Methinks you need to learn recognising sarcasm.

How is "HOW EDGY!!!" not sarcastic?

It is, that's the point.

I spent a long time wondering what the Hell you meant. But then I realised: the problem is that you missed the sarcasm in MY post, not vice versa.

Which is very, very funny. XD

yeah, that's why I said that, to be edgy.

not because I couldn't possibly believe more strongly that you love who you love, and there can't ever be something wrong with that, no matter your genitalia or theirs.

I enjoy reading about people condemning homosexuality as a sin, because then I can go practice my favorite pastime, mocking them and their God! My night has officially been made by this lovely secret.

Fun times.

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