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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-22 10:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #5981 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I think it'd be very distracting to me. Or it'd bother me in the way that I'd be wondering if the thing I was watching was AI or not. I know the person is just making their personal predictions, but this isn't a future I'm looking forward to. (At least, not without heavy regulations... which I realize have no guarantee of being maintained in the long term)

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people would start experimenting with filming things in their living rooms. Video cameras have gotten cheap, people have gotten comfortable filming stuff to show friends and relatives online, and it can be a *lot* more fun than watching a movie about whoever, made whenever.

A lot of technological advancement that was initially driven by greed and the corporate ambition to avoid paying living wages can be used to make its aims obsolete.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think this poster is grossly overestimating the capabilities that AI will have in our lifetims. And underestimating the importance of, you know, acting. I see uncanny valley as also being a problem here.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I mean uncanny valley isn't an unsolvable problem if the tech is good enough. The question is just, is the tech good enough?

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that the poster is vastly overestimating. Though I do think AI will be increasingly used in scripts, animation etc. just like CGI is - filling in background details, covering budget shortfalls, cheaper than using people who have a union...

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I think the poster is overstating how much of that stuff is going to be possible in the near-to-mid term. And certainly overstating how much of it's going to be economical.

Also "as a coder and someone with a computer science degree" is pretty weak as far as credentialism goes tbh

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

What I've heard is that AI is the biggest bubble yet, and a who's-who of tech behemoths invested heavily in it. So, most of the barrage we're seeing of breathless media attention paid to AI, is literally bought and paid for by advertising budgets. Because if this fails, Microsoft and Google and Amazon and a number of other companies with huge hard-ons for the idea that they can replace people with AI will lose a lot of money.

So, sure, why not promise the moon? And everything fans have ever wished they could have, like another season of that show that was never made and they pine for? They're counting on people wanting to believe, instead of considering the things that you quite rightly did.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I probably wouldn't partake, or at least I'd like to think so, bit the truth is /4 solde. I get to partake in my custom adventure with my favorite actors or characters? I'm not above this enticement, tbh. I might not be.

That's a big DO NOT WANT from me.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like it would hit that uncanny valley territory and I would be disturbed by it.

Also, for the 'customized' films, I don't want all of that information collected - I don't like personalized ads even when they get it right (instead of being shown ads for farm equipment for six months because I was curious about how a thresher worked and looked it up once).

Agreed

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Do I want personalized media made just for me? Hell yes. Do I trust any company with the data needed for that? Fuck no.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
No.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
And this is why I hate people like you, who care more about your own fun than the sustainability of things. Fuck you, hope your computer fries.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if your goal here is to completely alienate everyone who doesn't already agree with you and make those people even less inclined to be swayed from the stance you so vehemently loathe, then good job! Lashing out with unnecessary hostility like this will absolutely accomplish that goal!

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[personal profile] mishey22 2023-05-23 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
Screw AI
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[personal profile] starfleetbrat 2023-05-23 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
This all sounds remarkably like Star Trek Holodecks lol I'm kinda interested in that on a surface level, but its a big DO NOT WANT when I think deeper about it.

Like, I would not trust anyone to scan my body and then use it appropriately. What happens when the company that owns your scan closes or they sell off their scan database? Next thing you know you are starring in weird porn.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"Holodeck" is very much what they're trying to promise, but quite dishonestly.

Oh, I think you can be sure that whatever you give them that they can exploit, with whatever half-assed technology actual humans have already been paid to code, will be.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly the more I hear from from 'Replace Creativity With Ai' people, the more I'm convinced that they'd be satisfied with the equivalent of a shiny jangling set of keys before them over some genuine human imagination.

Bit sad to be so easily amused and settle for no quality tbh.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I'm glad you put words to this. Because I've been thinking it and it's been bothering me.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I agree with this line of argument. It's clear that right now the technology isn't close to good enough to do what its boosters want it to do. And even if the technology is good enough, there are fundamental economic questions about protecting peoples' livelihoods and not exploiting people.

But there's also a way of thinking about it where it's like AI will *never* be able to successfully replaced human creativity because human creativity is Magic and I don't know if that's actually true. I think it's entirely possible that AI will get to a level where it can produce outputs that are as good as, and indistinguishable from, really good creative human output. I think that's probably still a long way out. But there's no reason it couldn't happen.

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(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
Takes like this remind me that not everyone is going to have an answer I like or understand.

When presented with new things, even/especially with media for personal entertainment, I ask myself, "what purpose does this seek to serve?"

Often, I fear many will answer with, "Because I like/want it."

Not saying all thing we consume should be thought provoking or deep, but I believe we're at a point where most things created are of little value. Also created for monetary reasons above all else.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-23 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't support the AI thing, but OMG I do feel you on MR's Constantine.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-24 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Anon, if you've got thousands of dollars to invest in a project like that, you don't need AI. You just need to line up some other people with money who want the same thing as you.

None of the stuff that person spitballing on Twitter is waffling between saying "this exists" and "I can picture it existing" is worth a hill of beans, yet. They're just hoping to harness fan frustration with having very limited input over what gets made and what form it takes for industry purposes. While actually promising nothing.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-05-24 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
mimicry isn't actually the thing. not to be "humans are too unique to truly imitate" but this isn't theseus' ship. writing with intention is not the same as putting words together based on probability, i don't care how well you train the model (and to be clear, you'll never be able to train a model with any sort of useful accuracy on such sparse datasets; like you'd only be able to train on the show itself to get something close to the show and there's no show that has enough episodes for something useful).

(Anonymous) 2023-05-24 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
This is a really good point.